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Posted 11 June 2010 - 09:04 AM

I forgot to introduce myself. I joined in October, became a Nanfa member (how do you change that in your profile?) over the winter and started posting a month or so ago. I left the fish hobby about 23 years or so ago when I had my 30 gallon salt water "fish only" tank get too warm and I lost my fish. I had no idea how warm my dad's apartment was going to get and he wouldn't allow me to get A/C. Bioballs were still becoming popular at the time. I was doing the UGF with the powerhead. I had the standard livebearers, ropefish and a giveaway Jack Dempsey that a my manager gave me at Gimbels. I had a "locally caught" saltwater tank for a while that was fun.

I'm back because I wanted to to do coldwater fish, natives and plants. I really would like to do an oyster reef tank or other cold saltwater again. So I did lots of reading before I even joined here to have a plan. I need to look into the NY state permits. There a lot of fish in the lower hudson valley by my g/f's house so I am thinking about doing a local tank.

So I have a number of tanks. My favorite being my slate bottomed 20g high metaframe the I found at the curb on garbage night about 25 years ago. A couple of 10s, a floating planted 20 something hex in the backyard screaming for some Least Killis, the metaframe and a 43 gallon breeder which I haven't started yet.

Fishwise, I have 3 varieties of White Cloud Mountain Minnows, American-flag Fish, Bluefin Killis, Greenhead shiners, a few melanistic golden topminnows coming next week and what is probably a sharpfin chubsucker that I found at the LFS in the plant tank. Got some of the fish from Dustin and Brian Z.

The wild caught flag fish tried spawning already as did my Greenheads this week. So I need to get rolling and try the keeping the eggs and fry.

poor quality video of the Greenheads

I think thats all.......

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

Cool another New Jerseyen(is that even a word?), I'm from the Trenton area myself. I've thought about trying a saltwater tank when I get around to finally buying a house. I'd say welcome to the forums but you've been here longer then I have :lol:

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:49 AM

We're all nicely spaced out.

Welcome!

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:27 AM

well i can tell you now that NY state will dump your fish out unless you have a collectors permit. i regular fishing license wont cut it. they dont allow bait to be transported. ran into this problem last week for the first time. they said you can catch them and use them as bait or film them and release them. sucks

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:30 AM

Welcome to the forum HeadshotZod! I hope you find your stay both enjoyable and informative!

Brian

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 01:13 PM

So far so good Brian, the only problem is that we need a few thousand more members so the topics and threads get updated in a more fastidious fashion :)

Bumpy, the laws are getting a little out of control. I read the NY laws and they are easier to discern then NJ's In NY you can't even possess dragonfly larvae. I won't go off on the laws here but maybe NY should start throwing children in jail for keeping lightning bugs as pets because that is illegal too. NJ is a complete trainwreck. Back in the early 90's I took a class on flyfishing and was told that 81% of the waters are so polluted that you have to throw the fish back.

What is the point of irritating and possibly killing the fish if he completely swallows the hook? Thats ok, but if you don't use that unspecified baitfish you caught in a government approved minnowtrap in a 72 hour period expect the law to come after you. I understand why they do it but it is overkill. <back to simmer setting> Sorry about that... I should be good for about 20 minutes :)

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 01:14 PM

David, I'll let you know when I start the tank.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 01:22 PM

So far so good Brian, the only problem is that we need a few thousand more members so the topics and threads get updated in a more fastidious fashion :)

Bumpy, the laws are getting a little out of control. I read the NY laws and they are easier to discern then NJ's In NY you can't even possess dragonfly larvae. I won't go off on the laws here but maybe NY should start throwing children in jail for keeping lightning bugs as pets because that is illegal too. NJ is a complete trainwreck. Back in the early 90's I took a class on flyfishing and was told that 81% of the waters are so polluted that you have to throw the fish back.

What is the point of irritating and possibly killing the fish if he completely swallows the hook? Thats ok, but if you don't use that unspecified baitfish you caught in a government approved minnowtrap in a 72 hour period expect the law to come after you. I understand why they do it but it is overkill. <back to simmer setting> Sorry about that... I should be good for about 20 minutes :)



its very ridiculous. the officer was saying how kids cant have tadpoles, worms, or crickets anymore. its a joke.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 01:43 PM

I don't know if they still have it but on Island Beach Park they had a native saltwater tank setup at one of the visitor centers that was really cool.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 12:44 AM

Liberty Science Center has a bunch of native tanks/displays. I'll take pics the next time I go.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

welcome aboard

HeadshotZod

changes to your member status has to be done by members of Staff, which are always more than happy to assist new members :)

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 05:58 AM

You Jersey folks with saltwater experience might want to consider that in Sept and Oct, around jetties and inlets, you can hand collect butterflyfish, damsals, cowfish, even angels. All native, all completely legal and way way off the LE radar.
You do have to snorkle or dive and that obviously brings a bunch of other regs into play.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 10:03 AM

I've seined they bay in late summer. Your right. Cow/box fish, seahorses, pipefish, butterfly, angles and trigger/filefish. The Gulfstream is a powerful thing.

I almost forgot, my kids are suspposed to go seining at Sandy Hook with Scouts. I'll be tagging along on that trip.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 10:54 AM

I've seined they bay in late summer. Your right. Cow/box fish, seahorses, pipefish, butterfly, angles and trigger/filefish. The Gulfstream is a powerful thing.

I almost forgot, my kids are suspposed to go seining at Sandy Hook with Scouts. I'll be tagging along on that trip.


I used to seine in the Barnegat Bay as a kid. We were going for bait though so aside from the spearing, baby oystercrackers and the occasional baby crab we really had no idea what we were catching. It was fun though. When my son is a little older I'll buy a seine net so he and I can have some fun.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 12:07 PM

Blennys, too.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:46 PM

I actually read an article about collecting those fish, I think in Long Island. They get caught in the gulf stream and wind up dying up here when the water temperature drops late in the season.



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