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Posted 21 June 2010 - 03:52 PM

Does anyone know anyway to make or get some sort of darter trap. The darters in question which I would like to trap are in a shallow sandy shore of the Thames River here in Ingersoll and are mostly less than an inch long. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 10:08 PM

Does anyone know anyway to make or get some sort of darter trap. The darters in question which I would like to trap are in a shallow sandy shore of the Thames River here in Ingersoll and are mostly less than an inch long. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you!


Though most people dip or kick net darters, I have heard the occasional story of them getting caught in minnow traps.

I have often wondered if a darter specific trap was possible, taking advantage of the darters habit of hiding under rubble. Unlike a minnow trap, i assume the openings would be on the bottom not the middle. Maybe the trap itself would be disguised to look like a rock or such.\

I have no idea how to actually make it, but have thought of traps like this before.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 12:59 AM

Does anyone know anyway to make or get some sort of darter trap. The darters in question which I would like to trap are in a shallow sandy shore of the Thames River here in Ingersoll and are mostly less than an inch long. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

I have not had any luck with traps, but long handled dip nets work well. Those guys are fast though. Any idea what type of darter it is?

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 05:37 AM

I have just ben attempting too dipnet, mine doesn't have a very long handle so I'll probably run down to Canadian Tire and get a new one. I'm pretty sure tey are Rainbows but not 100%.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 07:51 AM

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:03 AM

Martin, do you really use driftnets to catch darters? We've been running a very similar driftnet in the upper Paint Rock River in 'bama for a year and never caught a darter in it. We never tried to, either, but it's easy to catch darters with a 3-person seine net. Here's what our net looks like in action --
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:23 PM

I think you'll do much better with a seine than a dipnet, I'd give it a try. I use a 4' x 4' seine by myself often. I've also seen lots of guys using a 4' x 8' seine by themselves with good results. I lean forward and set the seine as far away from me as possible, then kick and shuffle my feet towards the net and pick it up quickly.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:28 PM

only minnow traps and dipnets can be used to collect baitfish in ontario :rolleyes:

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:30 PM

only minnow traps and dipnets can be used to collect baitfish in ontario :rolleyes:


Ah, I thought there was a reason he couldn't use seines, but I forgot it. Too bad!

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:41 PM

ive been thinking of rough designs using a pop bottle (inverting the lid, like a madtom trap) but somehow attaching it to something else and have the entrance near the bottom. just a thought

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:44 PM

Carefully placed minnow traps set at the base of boulders or along a log will catch all kinds of cover hugging species that get funneled in rather than baited.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 10:43 PM

Martin, do you really use driftnets to catch darters? We've been running a very similar driftnet in the upper Paint Rock River in 'bama for a year and never caught a darter in it. We never tried to, either, but it's easy to catch darters with a 3-person seine net. Here's what our net looks like in action --
EstillForkJune11_2010_driftnet.jpg


This is a pair of designs from BG Granier. I went out to test the version with wings ONE time with him and we did not catch any darters, but I think that if you include a lip on the bottom edge that angles inward, you can prevent darters from swimming out of the net. Also, you have to go upstream from the trap and roust the darters from their perches by means of stomping, cursing loudly, and thrashing about in an aggressive fashion.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 11:02 AM

Also, you have to go upstream from the trap and roust the darters from their perches by means of stomping, cursing loudly, and thrashing about in an aggressive fashion.


Basicly a normal kick netting session then? :)

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:16 PM

only minnow traps and dipnets can be used to collect baitfish in ontario :rolleyes:


Can you define for us what Ontario calls a dipnet and minnow trap for that matter.



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