massachusetts hates suckers?
#21 Guest_gzeiger_*
Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:07 AM
#22 Guest_donkeyman876_*
Posted 29 June 2010 - 03:34 PM
Well two, grill or glue.I think we all know there's only one thing to do witha dead horse.
#23 Guest_wargreen_*
Posted 12 July 2010 - 07:49 AM
Since I'm in an absolutely terrific mood this weekend I'll make some additional points and give you some examples.
The typical "game warden" makes less than a police office, even though they not only are responsible for natural resource protection, but criminal activity on public lands and homeland security responsibilities. Many are required to do personal upkeep on their vehicles and their equipment is usually decades older than regular LEO. Most also have a minimal background in fish and wildlife management. So when it comes to the legislative table that certain species of game fish, or crayfish, or bait, must be distinguished between one another what do you think their gut reaction will be? When the first thing usually on their mind is what yahoos are doing drugs in a state park, poaching commercial fisheries, baiting and spot lighting deer? That is why Bruce is exactly right in saying the "easier" solution is a broader regulation.
Example # 1. The Maryland Natural Resources Police has been reduced by at least 1/4 in the past four years. When a ban on crayfish was proposed what alternative do you think was chosen; the specific species, specific watershed ban or the broad ban across taxa?
Example # 2. The Maryland Department of Natural Resources has less than 3 full time employees dedicated to fisheries legislation. We were one of the last Atlantic states that have met the requirements for a coastal fishing registry, our trout stamp does not support the fishery, we are annually over quota for most managed fisheries, oysters are at 1% of their historic level, we have reactive invasive species regulations, etc., etc., etc.
The department overall has had its budget reduced 40% in a few years and I've lost track about the number of people. Guess what, the work hasn't reduced 40% Bitch at the right people, your legislative representatives, because you may find you have allies in the resource agencies and with your support and even assistance you'd be surprised what you could accomplish. I have been advocating a proactive policy of responsible collection of native non-game fishes for years before many of the current moaning people were aware this organizaiton existed and been warning, along with others, this was on the horizon. More specifically, paying for a permit that is essentially a grade below a scientific collection permit, but not a fishing license. Money goes places. Face it, we are small in numbers, yet apathy is rediculously high. I applaud the very few people who in recent years have stepped up to the plate and taken on responsibility in a volunteer capacity. However, complaining on a website about how your access to a resource in a responsible manor goes no where and frankly it along with the general trend in content has me tired of the forum and organization. If trout fisherman were denied similarly in even a smaller manor pitchforks and torches come out. Even carp fisherman are more vociferous than this group to legislators and resource managers. The organization lacks a voice because a very narrow thing unites it and the wide differences between the various user groups that make up the group are apparently too much to overcome.
Signing off...for quite a while.
#24 Guest_Irate Mormon_*
Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:59 PM
Well two, grill or glue.
Wrong on both counts! BEAT that sucker!!
#25 Guest_exasperatus2002_*
Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:35 PM
#26 Guest_donkeyman876_*
Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:56 PM
#27 Guest_schambers_*
Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:05 PM
I guess there could be a population issue. Will suckers eat eggs of other fish in any great amounts?
I would think the reverse is true. I don't know about suckers eating eggs, but in my area white suckers can produce an incredible amount of fry. Compare that to the number of adult white suckers, and somebody's eating a ton of little suckers!
I think that's just an old law left over from when we didn't know any better. It's a real shame that the agencies don't have the $ to clean up stuff like that.
#28 Guest_Gambusia_*
Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:34 PM
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