I was wondering if i could keep the three species listed above in a 38-46 gallon tank very well planted but no plants that in stop the shiners from swimming.
Pygmy, blue spot, and Longear sunfish together (with rainbow shiners)?
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:34 PM
I don't have any experience with the pygmy sunfish, but from what I've read here I'm guessing that you might have a hard time getting them enough food. I'm not sure though. If you have enough plants, you might be able to do it. I think probably you can try it for a day or two and see if they get enough food. Unless the pygmies are really small, I don't think the longear or blue spot would be a problem with them. Where did you get your rainbow shiners? I love those guys. Good luck!
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:27 PM
well im actually buying my heres a link http://www.aquacultu...om/fwverts.html
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 08:01 PM
I am going to just go ahead and say: probably not.
A 36, in my opinion, is already too small for a longear. Others may disagree. I also do not think that that mix is compatible. As mentioned, your pygmies will likely get "lost" in a tank that size. They not live and frozen foods. You'd have to feed enough so that such tiny fish can find that food in such a large space before any shiners or other sunfish get them. I think you could keep a small group of bluespots with your shiners. If you want pygmies, get another tank. Ten gallon tanks are dirt cheap and if heavily planted, pygmies will do just fine in those.
A 36, in my opinion, is already too small for a longear. Others may disagree. I also do not think that that mix is compatible. As mentioned, your pygmies will likely get "lost" in a tank that size. They not live and frozen foods. You'd have to feed enough so that such tiny fish can find that food in such a large space before any shiners or other sunfish get them. I think you could keep a small group of bluespots with your shiners. If you want pygmies, get another tank. Ten gallon tanks are dirt cheap and if heavily planted, pygmies will do just fine in those.
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 08:33 PM
I just bought a nice group for Rainbows from Sachs. They are really nice- the males have a really unique iridescent blue violet color I have not seen on any other fish.I don't have any experience with the pygmy sunfish, but from what I've read here I'm guessing that you might have a hard time getting them enough food. I'm not sure though. If you have enough plants, you might be able to do it. I think probably you can try it for a day or two and see if they get enough food. Unless the pygmies are really small, I don't think the longear or blue spot would be a problem with them. Where did you get your rainbow shiners? I love those guys. Good luck!
Almost like they were under a black light or something. Anyway, the fish arrived healthy, and are doing well.
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:41 PM
I don't have any experience with the pygmy sunfish, but from what I've read here I'm guessing that you might have a hard time getting them enough food.
I agree with that. Pygmies would get eaten by the other fish in that tank. They max out at an inch, I'm not kidding, and their babies are the size of grains of sand and grow really really slowly. It's not a good mix of fish.
If you want an idea of how small pygmy sunfish really are, look me up on youtube. I'm the username Okiimiru, and I've got quite a few videos of pygmies. They're teensy.
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:00 PM
Uncle is right here. That is just not a good mix. Pygmy Sunnies are better off in a tank alone. The shiners would do OK with either of the sunfish (providing you start off with a small enough sunfish... if you are buying your shiners, I have seen some of them arrive pretty small... could be snack size for a larger sunny). But the longears are too large and agressive for the bluespots...which really would prefer to have your tank fully planted and to themselves... with maybe some grass shrimp thrown in occasionally to chase and eat.I am going to just go ahead and say: probably not.
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:34 PM
Is this post telling us that you are going to go with a group of northern longears in a 38 - 46 gallon tank? Or are you implying that we don't know what we are talking about, and since northern longears have a smaller average size that you think you can have pygmies, bluespots, longears AND rainbow shiners in the same tank.
If your meaning was close to the first, then I say that it is possible to keep a few longear sunnies in a setup like this.
If your message followed closer to the latter statement, then I say that you should not ask questions that you don't want to hear the answer to. You asked for opinions, and what you got from several people is that this hypothetical setup of yours will likely not be a success. Success meaning that you can properly give the fish the food, environment and care they need.
If I have totally misunderstood you, then I apologize. To discourage misunderstandings, please post full sentences on the forum.
If your meaning was close to the first, then I say that it is possible to keep a few longear sunnies in a setup like this.
If your message followed closer to the latter statement, then I say that you should not ask questions that you don't want to hear the answer to. You asked for opinions, and what you got from several people is that this hypothetical setup of yours will likely not be a success. Success meaning that you can properly give the fish the food, environment and care they need.
If I have totally misunderstood you, then I apologize. To discourage misunderstandings, please post full sentences on the forum.
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