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Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:52 PM

A friend of mine has taken a liking to my native fish keeping and is setting up his own 29g tank. He's pretty much decided he wants a community tank after watching my 8 zimmermans northern longears swimming in my 10 gallon grow out tank. We're thinking a community of Banded/Blackbanded/Bluespotted sunfish along with a couple minnows, madtom or two, and a couple darters. Another idea was maybe an Ospot or two. Are Ospots/Bantams ok with Bluespots/banded/blackbandeds? Is 6ish smaller sunfish, 2 madtoms, a 4-5 school of minnows and 3-4 darters overstocked, or is it manageable with a solid HOB + a sponge filter and good maintenance?

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:56 AM

A friend of mine has taken a liking to my native fish keeping and is setting up his own 29g tank. He's pretty much decided he wants a community tank after watching my 8 zimmermans northern longears swimming in my 10 gallon grow out tank. We're thinking a community of Banded/Blackbanded/Bluespotted sunfish along with a couple minnows, madtom or two, and a couple darters. Another idea was maybe an Ospot or two. Are Ospots/Bantams ok with Bluespots/banded/blackbandeds? Is 6ish smaller sunfish, 2 madtoms, a 4-5 school of minnows and 3-4 darters overstocked, or is it manageable with a solid HOB + a sponge filter and good maintenance?

I would have to say that you will be overstocking with the fish you plan on putting in your 29 gallon. I have a 29 gallon with 7 orangespots, 1 spotfin, and 2 tadpole madtoms currently in it. Most of the fish are juvenile, but it still looks overstocked. I would say that for a 29 gallon, you would only want about 3 sunfish (Ospot size), 1 madtom, and maybe 3 or 4 minnows in it. I know that people say 1 inch per gallon, but take into account where the fish live in the water column, as well. Madtoms like the bottom and the sunfish tend to stick to the middle and bottom, and shiners and minnows seem to like mid to top water. I've noticed that my fish like to have their own territory, and I'm trying to provide that by moving some into another tank to accommodate them.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:59 AM

I forgot to mention, darters usually like high current, the fish I mentioned would be good for lower current in a tank.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 01:19 AM

Most likely will be doing banded/bluespot/blackbanded with a couple heavily (fake) planted areas. Also will be adding a small powerhead aiming back to front to make a little current in one section. Idea is that the sunfish chill in the jungle parts, minnows out swimming around like normal, darters in the open where the powerhead will be. Considering madtoms hide all day in caves and plants, seems decent to me right?

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 02:02 AM

It all depends on how you want the aquarium to look. Personally, I like to let the fish have as much room as I can, within reason. But, if the tank setup can support all the fish, you should be good to go.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 11:45 AM

Most likely will be doing banded/bluespot/blackbanded with a couple heavily (fake) planted areas. Also will be adding a small powerhead aiming back to front to make a little current in one section. Idea is that the sunfish chill in the jungle parts, minnows out swimming around like normal, darters in the open where the powerhead will be. Considering madtoms hide all day in caves and plants, seems decent to me right?


Seems a little crowded to me too... might be better to create more of a habitat... Enneacanthus sunfish are mostly in slack water areas where there is not much current. And I have seen mine aggressively pursue large ghost shrimp... I might not trust them with darters at all... but if you want to try it, maybe swamp darters would be good... they don't need any current at all. And then maybe something like a slack water shiner... maybe taillight... maybe a pteronotropis. That would actually make a nice display and be a real habitat that you might see in nature somewhere.
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 04:24 PM

Seems a little crowded to me too... might be better to create more of a habitat... Enneacanthus sunfish are mostly in slack water areas where there is not much current. And I have seen mine aggressively pursue large ghost shrimp... I might not trust them with darters at all... but if you want to try it, maybe swamp darters would be good... they don't need any current at all. And then maybe something like a slack water shiner... maybe taillight... maybe a pteronotropis. That would actually make a nice display and be a real habitat that you might see in nature somewhere.


I can't imagine Enneacanthus sunfish touching a decent sized rainbow or greenside darter though...don't people keep them with smaller mouthed lepomis?



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