Trinectes maculatus questions
#1 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:14 PM
Also, does anyone have any experience with them? What type of tank setup should be done? I was thinking a fine sand substraight with some smaller gravel pieces, a couple of bigger rocks (fist size, maybe bigger,) and maybe a single piece of wood. ANy plants?
Also, how many could be kept in a tank that is 48"x12".
What other tankmates might be suggested?
Should this tank be a river set up? (with all current pushing across the tank)
And finally, where can they be found?, None of my books state they are found in WI/Ill/MN, but my good friend swears he found some last year in the Milwaukee River.
Any other info is greatly appreciated!
-Nate
#2 Guest_Newt_*
Posted 15 March 2011 - 04:07 PM
#3 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:03 PM
Thanks for that input.
#4
Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:47 PM
Also, does anyone have any experience with them?
I brought a handful home from the Florida convention and an accidental tourst spotted sunfish... put them all in a 36 x 18 40 gallon tank... with sand like you said... with some plants, and a stone or two... and did create current across the fron of the tank... fed them frozen brine and such... seemed to work very well for a year or so... not sure whether it was the food or the sunfish getting bigger, but I dont seem to see them much anymore... thinking I may have lost them... but they were very interesting to watch... I saw them actively eat bring shimp off the surface of the sand... and saw them come up out of the sand some times and then 'nestle' back in... very cool little flat fish.
#5 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 16 March 2011 - 07:58 AM
Was there a specific food they relish and how much current would be too much?
#6
Posted 16 March 2011 - 10:54 AM
thanks for sharing your experience with them. I was thinking I would add a topminnow to the tank to help fill in the void, but mainly try to spotlight the flatties!
Was there a specific food they relish and how much current would be too much?
I think that topminnows would be fine.
I mostly fed brine shrimp... but think that black worms or blood worms would have also been good (I cant get black worms frequently, and I have developed a strange alergy to blood worms)...
I used pretty strong current from a powerhead, and they were pretty much in the middle of the stream from where they were collected, so I would not worry about too much current...
#7 Guest_gzeiger_*
Posted 17 March 2011 - 06:30 PM
#8 Guest_EricaWieser_*
Posted 17 March 2011 - 07:14 PM
Most people do.I have developed a strange alergy to blood worms)...
Avoid bloodworms as a food source if you can, NVCichlids. Something like three quarters of people have allergic reactions to them and the reaction just gets stronger the more you are exposed to them. More info: http://www.fishforum...bloodworms.html
#9 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 18 March 2011 - 08:22 AM
Most people do.
Avoid bloodworms as a food source if you can, NVCichlids. Something like three quarters of people have allergic reactions to them and the reaction just gets stronger the more you are exposed to them. More info: http://www.fishforum...bloodworms.html
I have been feeding blackworms and will avoid bloods due to that specific reason. I have access to order as much live blackworms as I want each month for low cost ($10/lb)
#10 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 20 March 2011 - 05:05 PM
I have been running down my list for potential tank mates, but I am not sure if I shoudl really add some? I was considering some native to wisconsin minnow species, some sheepshead minnows, some sticklebacks, or topminnows. What would fit the best in this tank?
#11 Guest_gzeiger_*
Posted 21 March 2011 - 05:11 AM
If you think they are present in waters near you, the way to catch them is to scoop directly across the bottom in a sandy or muddy area (can be quite close to shore). They are spawning down here right now. I just caught some .5-.75" ones on Friday, so this is the time of year to go looking. They may be a little later up north where you are.
#12 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 21 March 2011 - 10:12 AM
I am definately looking/in the market to purchase some as I want this tank to have fish in it soon!
#13 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 22 March 2011 - 12:14 PM
I am now open to purchasing some from someone. I would prefer smaller ones (might actually be interested in 10-16 under 1", 6-10 1-2", 6 2"+. If anyone is willing to locate and catch some for me that would really be great! Send me a message as I am hoping to attempt to breed ( know it is hard with the salinity changes, but willing to test.)
-Nate
#14 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 24 March 2011 - 08:16 AM
Still on the lookout for some. If I do not hear of any leads by May, I will contact Sach's again and see if they respond.
Nate
#15
Posted 24 March 2011 - 10:19 AM
went into a LFS looking for live roti's for my saltwater fry and found a tank labelled "Flounder". I asked if I could search the tank for 35 minutes (i actually removed everything from the tank and ran my hands side by side through the sand), but didn't find anything .
Still on the lookout for some. If I do not hear of any leads by May, I will contact Sach's again and see if they respond.
Nate
That would be a nice - low tech - low maintenance - tank... just sand and water... and then you just tell everyone about your highly camaflauged, sand dwelling native fish...
#16 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:33 PM
That would be a nice - low tech - low maintenance - tank... just sand and water... and then you just tell everyone about your highly camaflauged, sand dwelling native fish...
LOL that would be great, but my wife would then question "whats in there?" lol.. well she might do that anyways with these. I did promise her a rainbow/killie tank if I can get some hogchokers.
#17 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 30 March 2011 - 07:07 AM
My heart just dropped... I was like really? I cannot keep my elassoma's anymore, nor am I able to get any fish that is NOT NATIVE to WI? I mean I went away from the typical "tropical" fish because I loved the neatness of our natives, but if we are no longer able to keep anything Non Native to WI that is native to the US, I am not sure how I can keep my oddity habit alive.. there just aren't enough small oddities that are Native to WI (Sticklebacks and mudminnows being the extent of what I can think of that can actually live a full life in an aquarium.)
all plans on hold... trying to get a "scientific permit" to be able to keep hoggies!
Edited by NVCichlids, 30 March 2011 - 07:10 AM.
#18 Guest_EricaWieser_*
Posted 30 March 2011 - 07:35 AM
My deepest condolences. I empathize so much with people who can't keep their pets because of local laws. And then a niggling thought in the back of your mind starts asking you if it's worth moving, and you think to yourself, hmm, I could move, it wouldn't be too hard, and then you're uprooting your entire life and plans just because your local laws were passed by someone who didn't understand you. It's difficult, and I know how you feel. Maybe this special permit is the answer. I hope so. Best wishes that it all works out.This gentleman was saying ANY NON NATIVE fish cannot be kept (well non native to the state, but still native to the US.)
My heart just dropped... I was like really?
#19 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 30 March 2011 - 06:54 PM
#20 Guest_gerald_*
Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:44 AM
I talked with Mr. Sach's yesterday and WAS working on getting some, but that was then put on hold from a friend at the DNR. This is a guy I had never worked with before, but was referred to speak with him by Brian Torreano. This gentleman was saying ANY NON NATIVE fish cannot be kept (well non native to the state, but still native to the US.)
My heart just dropped... I was like really? I cannot keep my elassoma's anymore, nor am I able to get any fish that is NOT NATIVE to WI? I mean I went away from the typical "tropical" fish because I loved the neatness of our natives, but if we are no longer able to keep anything Non Native to WI that is native to the US, I am not sure how I can keep my oddity habit alive..
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