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Northeast Pa Minnow Help

Started by Guest_deftik_* , Jun 27 2011 01:42 PM

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#1 Guest_deftik_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 01:42 PM

Caught these little guys out of the lackawanna river, in Pennsylvania.

Do you guys have any idea what fish these are?

Fish 1:
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Fish 2
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#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 01:56 PM

Caught these little guys out of the lackawanna river, in Pennsylvania.

Do you guys have any idea what fish these are?

I guess:
1) blacknose dace
2) creek chub

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#3 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 02:13 PM

Blacknose dace
cutlips minnow. most likely, though in western Pa, you also have tonguetied minnows. Probably need to check range maps. Might be protected.

Edited by Skipjack, 27 June 2011 - 02:17 PM.

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#4 Guest_deftik_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 04:11 PM

Heres some more pictures of fish 2 to help with ID:

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#5 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:05 PM

Look at natureserve.org, to check on distribution. It is most likely a cutlips, but you also have tonguetied.

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#6 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:09 PM

Also, you apparently took it home without proper ID. You might get a good bit of flack about that. Again it may be a protected species in your state.

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#7 Guest_deftik_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:16 PM

Also, you apparently took it home without proper ID. You might get a good bit of flack about that. Again it may be a protected species in your state.

Both remained unharmed, merely transported less than a mile for HD photographs, than re-released.

Any way to discern a difference?

Also cutlips is the only one listed on the Pa species list, so that may be the way right there.
http://fishandboat.c...ms/chapindx.htm

Here are the distribution maps for both according to a local college
http://www.orser.psu...CutlipMinow.jpg
http://www.orser.psu...TngtieMinow.jpg

Edited by deftik, 27 June 2011 - 07:30 PM.

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#8 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:26 PM

They are both in your state. I am not good enough with ID's to help you much more. But from what I get tonguetied is in the western part of the state.

Well with your range maps, cutlips it is,

Edited by Skipjack, 27 June 2011 - 07:59 PM.

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#9 Guest_looks2ce_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 09:16 PM

2lb test? what size hooks? angle worms?

It honestly never occurred to me to actually FISH for these fish! I just spent a couple of hours this weekend chasing fish with my dipnet. I ended up with a better tank than I started with, but I bet I could have kept the girlfriend occupied with this while I raced around the stream.

Edited by looks2ce, 27 June 2011 - 09:17 PM.

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#10 Guest_FirstChAoS_*

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:19 PM

2lb test? what size hooks? angle worms?

It honestly never occurred to me to actually FISH for these fish! I just spent a couple of hours this weekend chasing fish with my dipnet. I ended up with a better tank than I started with, but I bet I could have kept the girlfriend occupied with this while I raced around the stream.

I had a friend who is into fly fishing and when he told me of the tiny hooks used to immitate gnats, midges, and even no see em's I had thoughts on it but never tried it. I'd like to see someone get a darter on a hook and line.

Using normal hooks I have caught fallfish, golden shiners, and common shiners and have heard of people catching creek chubs.

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#11 Guest_MrCatfish_*

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 07:48 AM

I have caught Logperch on hook and line before.

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#12 Guest_exasperatus2002_*

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 07:50 AM

Black nosed dace and a cut lip minnow. Cutlips can be annoying at times while trout fishing because they'll try to take a redworm thats not meant for it. I used to use salmon egg hooks to catch them for cut bait.

Edited by exasperatus2002, 28 June 2011 - 07:52 AM.

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#13 Guest_deftik_*

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 12:33 PM

Thanks for all the info guys, after much deliberation I'm going with Skipjack and exasperatus2002, seeing as how a local biologist said, blacknose dace and cutlips as well.