I have read that this fish is found in Indiana and Kentucky. Is this true? Has anyone caught these in Indiana? Which river system? I might be interested in acquiring this species if that is the case since they are just a state over. Thanks for the help!
Jeremy Basch
Fundulus catenatus
Started by
Guest_jeremybasch_*
, Nov 06 2011 06:39 PM
14 replies to this topic
#2
Guest_countrybumpkin_*
Guest_countrybumpkin_*
-
- Guests
Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:31 PM
I believe they are in the Little Miami River in OH.I have read that this fish is found in Indiana and Kentucky. Is this true? Has anyone caught these in Indiana? Which river system? I might be interested in acquiring this species if that is the case since they are just a state over. Thanks for the help!
Jeremy Basch
#3
Guest_smbass_*
Guest_smbass_*
-
- Guests
Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:14 PM
They are an introduced species here in Ohio but are quite abundant in a few locations. They are very abundant in parts of the Little Miami River system and have also recently showed up in parts of the Scioto drainage as well. My crew also found one in a direct tributary to the Ohio River on the eastern edge of the state a couple of weeks ago. This was found near by another known introduced population. Despite being introduced in Ohio they are a nice looking fish and can easily be collected at some sites in Ohio. I just would advise being sure you make sure they stay in your tank or the extent of their life and not create yet another introduced population in our area. The population in IN is considered by most to be an introduction as well. Their native range included the TN and Cumberland River systems.
#4
Michael Wolfe
-
- Board of Directors
-
- North Georgia, Oconee River Drainage
Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:35 AM
I just would advise being sure you make sure they stay in your tank...
I know Brian meant this in a different way, but this is a concern from an aquarium keeping perspective as well. They are strong and athletic fish and are somewhat prone to jump. Also, they seem to require a rather high food intake and without a lot of food they sort of waste away over time. But they are beautiful... I tried to keep a few when I was in Alabama and they were common there... but was never successful long term at keeping them fed... so I stopped trying.
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. - Benjamin Franklin
#5
Guest_farmertodd_*
Guest_farmertodd_*
-
- Guests
Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:56 AM
You have to have an extreme amount of patience to successfully keep this species. I've found that it requires starting with very young fish as a cohort, maybe 6 or 8 that are an inch or less.
There is always a chance that you won't end up with a male... However, in the two times I've done this (with both northern and southern), I was able to get a couple males. They will pair up and the dominant ones will kill the others eventually. I've ended up with an individual in adult coloration of each sex within 2 years, and then the burn-your-eyes-out-color of the male in 3.
Regardless, they're the jumpiest fish I've ever kept, and I wouldn't have them in any system that didn't have a great amount of cover, either plants or woody debris that goes to and possibly over the water's surface.
It will also require a large aquarium after they begin to grow, with all back holes sealed, else they end up on the floor. This will affect your gas exchange, so you need to account for that.
They are easy to feed if you start with juvies. They'll take any prepared food, esp if you have good current distributing it around the tank.
While immaculate in the wild, unless you plan to provide all these stipulations, you'll probably just want to appreciate them outside.
Todd
There is always a chance that you won't end up with a male... However, in the two times I've done this (with both northern and southern), I was able to get a couple males. They will pair up and the dominant ones will kill the others eventually. I've ended up with an individual in adult coloration of each sex within 2 years, and then the burn-your-eyes-out-color of the male in 3.
Regardless, they're the jumpiest fish I've ever kept, and I wouldn't have them in any system that didn't have a great amount of cover, either plants or woody debris that goes to and possibly over the water's surface.
It will also require a large aquarium after they begin to grow, with all back holes sealed, else they end up on the floor. This will affect your gas exchange, so you need to account for that.
They are easy to feed if you start with juvies. They'll take any prepared food, esp if you have good current distributing it around the tank.
While immaculate in the wild, unless you plan to provide all these stipulations, you'll probably just want to appreciate them outside.
Todd
Edited by farmertodd, 07 November 2011 - 10:57 AM.
#8
Guest_Skipjack_*
Guest_Skipjack_*
-
- Guests
Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:20 PM
They are like the "Highlander" There can be only one. I have shipped adults, and heard when the bag arrive6 there was one large male left alive, and nothing but flesh and scales of the others. This was in complete darkness in a shipping box.
#9
Guest_farmertodd_*
Guest_farmertodd_*
-
- Guests
Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:10 PM
I'm soooooo stealing that Matt! lol!
You know what is funny is that the big males are gregarious in the pools of the Clifton Gorge, esp in the pools along the Narrows Trail. I've never witnessed that behavior anywhere else, and the remainder of the community in the LMR isn't that much different than anywhere else they occur. I wish the water was a little more clear, I'd try to get a permit to film it.
Todd
You know what is funny is that the big males are gregarious in the pools of the Clifton Gorge, esp in the pools along the Narrows Trail. I've never witnessed that behavior anywhere else, and the remainder of the community in the LMR isn't that much different than anywhere else they occur. I wish the water was a little more clear, I'd try to get a permit to film it.
Todd
#10
Guest_gerald_*
Guest_gerald_*
-
- Guests
Posted 08 November 2011 - 02:20 PM
Could that be a predator-response thing? Seems like a lot of belligerent fish (killies, cyprinella, sunfish) get suddenly sociable when there's something to fear.
You know what is funny is that the big males are gregarious in the pools of the Clifton Gorge, esp in the pools along the Narrows Trail. I've never witnessed that behavior anywhere else, ...
#15
Guest_gerald_*
Guest_gerald_*
-
- Guests
Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:33 AM
I wonder if the darters would act differently if the studfish weren't there. Darters might "know" that as long as killies or minnows are overhead, bass and other preds wont waste their time chasing darters around rocks.
The funny thing is, snubnose and saffron darters scoot around these same pools with apparent lack of concern. I guess they are more confident in their ability to get under cover in case of attack.
Reply to this topic
1 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users
NANFA Youtube Channel 
