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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

I got a Pygmy Killie mixed in a shipment of Pygmy Sunfish. I liked it so I bought 8 more from Sachs. I noticed that they are pretty aggressive towards each other. Is this normal behavior? They all have their little territories staked out and chase each other away if their space is invaded. They don't bother the Pygmy Sunfish or Least Killies.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:52 PM

Are you talking about Leptolucania ommata?

There was a discussion a while back about trying to get them to breed, link: http://forum.nanfa.o...lucania-ommata/ It's incredibly difficult to breed them. Regina Spotti published a spawning report on them that said, "The fry are tiny and terribly cannibalistic." http://www.killi.co....sult.php?ID=418
It makes sense they'd be kind of mean to one another as adults, too.

Oh, and it's unlikely you'll ever find pygmy sunfish fry if you keep the L. ommata in the tank. Apparently they eat them.

Edited by EricaWieser, 04 January 2012 - 09:04 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:56 PM

They like eating tiny cherry shrimp and flakes. I just put in some Indian Almond Leaves. We'll see what happens. Only the strong survive ;)

BTW would these 3 fish be found in the same waters?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:01 PM

I had a self-replacing colony of L. ommata in a 2.5 gallon tank for 4 years. They key is to keep it heavily planted to allow some eggs and fry to survive. I could probably have intervened and farmed out fish to other tanks, but I didn't, and I kept seeing a few new small fish every several months or so. Maybe I was just lucky?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:02 PM

BTW would these 3 fish be found in the same waters?

What species of pygmy sunfish do you have?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

Okefenokee.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

They like eating tiny cherry shrimp and flakes. I just put in some Indian Almond Leaves. We'll see what happens. Only the strong survive ;)

BTW would these 3 fish be found in the same waters?


Yes, in general, pygmy sunnies and pygmy killies live in the same place. I have caught both in the same general location in the Okefenokee. Never saw any pygmy livebearers (Heterandia) in those locations, but the habitats are very similar. I am not sure of a place where they all occur, if you are looking for the perfect biotope... but in general they are all swampy water inhabitants.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

Yes, in Florida/Georgia. For example, the okefenokee swamp has all three.
Heterandria formosa range: http://nas2.er.usgs.... &speciesid=852
Elassoma okefenokee (page 131 AKA 13 of 28): http://biology.unm.e...et al. 2009.pdf
Leptolucania ommata: "North America: occurs only in the USA from Georgia in Ogeechee River to Alabama in Perdido River, south to central Florida. One record from Escatawpa River drainage in southeastern Mississippi." from http://www.fishbase....nia-ommata.html



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