I'm wondering if trying to get DNR to do reward program to turn in gobies people catch is going to be a good or bad idea as I feel it would help reduce the populations significantly? This is the fish I tend to have a knack to catch nowadays. If more people were motivated to keep the fish instead of throwing it back in the water, do one really believe people would rather not deal with killing alive ones and just throw them back in the water? I honestly believe in that part.
I honestly have never seen a dead goby on shore or in the garbage can etc, so it tells me as I fish in heavily infested areas by gobies that people either don't fish in that area anymore or is just throwing them back in. I dont believe there are people who are willing to drive to the DNR and have it "processed" And to get rid of a big fine people make a quick decision and put it back in the water. In some areas the DNR is not well liked by some people who wants to fish in peace and do feel they do harass people on their properties it's a problem in Michigan but not here in Illinois I don't have a problem with either one personally but I've been eyeballed hard when I was in michigan leaving the marina so I do believe some family and friends validity in their complaints about the DNR there.
Was wondering if this type of thing would encourage the public to be more forthcoming with the goby catches?
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:18 PM
If there was a market for the gobies... a significant part of the water would be clear for other fish to get better chance. even if its 1 feet by 1 feet surface just for a day, something has a chance to survive. Its one goby at a time.
if someone finds a market for them just like shrimp or lobsters? Just because its trillions My point is, if DNR wanted the public to be more involved creatively, that would help. I would love to open a business somehow getting a niche in putting those gobies in good use in this economy.
Just because the mountain is too large to move aside, that didn't stop many people from doing something about the mountains to blaze the path they needed.
anyone knows of good goby recipe lol
if someone finds a market for them just like shrimp or lobsters? Just because its trillions My point is, if DNR wanted the public to be more involved creatively, that would help. I would love to open a business somehow getting a niche in putting those gobies in good use in this economy.
Just because the mountain is too large to move aside, that didn't stop many people from doing something about the mountains to blaze the path they needed.
anyone knows of good goby recipe lol
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:27 PM
I don't trust people to be able to tell the difference between round gobies and native darters. Last summer I went collecting and was all, "Yes, I know what I'm doing" and brought home a round goby amongst the darters we collected. It's illegal to remove them from their water body without killing them, by the way, so I felt like a complete moron. I had been looking for them and missed it.
My point is, if I can do it, other people can do it too. It's easy to confuse round gobies with the native darters, especially in seasons other than spring.
My point is, if I can do it, other people can do it too. It's easy to confuse round gobies with the native darters, especially in seasons other than spring.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:54 PM
I don't trust people to be able to tell the difference between round gobies and native darters. Last summer I went collecting and was all, "Yes, I know what I'm doing" and brought home a round goby amongst the darters we collected. It's illegal to remove them from their water body without killing them, by the way, so I felt like a complete moron. I had been looking for them and missed it.
My point is, if I can do it, other people can do it too. It's easy to confuse round gobies with the native darters, especially in seasons other than spring.
Maybe a length requirement could help with that problem, although down here many fishermen can't tell a black drum from a sheepshead.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:31 AM
A reward program would not work for a variety of reasons, primarily a lack of money (as Matt pointed out earlier) and population size alone. There is a paper in Journal of Great Lakes Research that used a variety of methods to estimate population size of round goby, and the consensus estimate was on the order of ~ 2 billion in the western basin of Lake Erie alone.
There are both commercial and recreational fisheries for round gobies (and related species) in Ukraine, Russia, and other areas where they are native and are used as a food fish. DNRs in the Great Lakes region could remove the possession regulation and allow fisheries for them, but there's a perception problem: most people here would not view them as edible. Would you?
There are both commercial and recreational fisheries for round gobies (and related species) in Ukraine, Russia, and other areas where they are native and are used as a food fish. DNRs in the Great Lakes region could remove the possession regulation and allow fisheries for them, but there's a perception problem: most people here would not view them as edible. Would you?
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:02 PM
And it is not illegal to catch them is it... and not iollegal to kill them is it... you just have to set up your campfire beside the lake, so that you are not removing them from the body of water...??? I have an idea for an outing...
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:59 PM
The last time I looked at the fishing regulation in Ohio, it was discouraged to release them alive.
I keep meaning to get a photo of the "gobies in a tin can" poster that Matt and Carol brought back from their Eurasian expedition. Did you ever take a photo of that Mattchew? I'll try to remember my camera next time I'm out there.
If we're still in O-hi-O here next fall, y'all can follow me home (or come up before) for a goby shore lunch eatin', Michigan snorkelin', glacial geology explorin' adventure
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I keep meaning to get a photo of the "gobies in a tin can" poster that Matt and Carol brought back from their Eurasian expedition. Did you ever take a photo of that Mattchew? I'll try to remember my camera next time I'm out there.
If we're still in O-hi-O here next fall, y'all can follow me home (or come up before) for a goby shore lunch eatin', Michigan snorkelin', glacial geology explorin' adventure
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:43 PM
I don't have a picture of that poster, but there is a similar picture of canned goby that can be found on Krzysztof Skora's page on round goby.I keep meaning to get a photo of the "gobies in a tin can" poster that Matt and Carol brought back from their Eurasian expedition. Did you ever take a photo of that Mattchew? I'll try to remember my camera next time I'm out there.
The introduced gobies that I worked on in California (yellowfin goby Acanthogobius flavimanus) can be found on the menu in sushi/sashimi places in the fancy parts of Tokyo. On our collecting trip there, we did most of our 'sampling' at the Tsukiji Fish Market. How about some round goby nigiri? Just go easy on the wasabi, Todd.....Mmmmmmm.... Gobykabobs.
How about just battering and frying? Seems to work for the guy in this article. And for some reason, there is a goby recipe on LiveStrong..maybe this is Lance's secret?!?anyone knows of good goby recipe lol
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