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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:18 PM

Well, a friend was kind enough to give me a little 8' boat. It needs a few small patches and maybe some nonslip on the bottom but otherwise it's solid. So I plan to take it out sampling once I get the method of hauling it figured out.

Any tips on sampling from a boat? This boat is about 8', 3 1/2' wide, has a slight V-hull, fiberglass. It has no motor and I don't plan to put one on it for the sake of having to register it. I don't intend to go very far with it, just up and down the creeks a bit, I think I can do most of it with a push pole and a couple of oars.

I have not taken it out yet, so I don't know how well I'll be able to stand in it.

What's the basic method? I'm planning to dipnet mostly and not targeting any particular species, so I'll probably be best served finding vegetation along the creek banks. So do I just launch from an area and then go upstream looking for little spots where there is slack water/vegetation? I'm sure I'll figure out most of this stuff out there but figured I'd ask.


Any suggestions?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:47 PM

You've pretty much got the idea - you can explore small inlets and stuff. You will have to get out of the boat to do much sampling. A shiner scoop might be a good addition to your gear.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:08 AM

Ah I totally didn't think about that either, I could just find some promising spots and go ashore, or at least in the water near shore if its private property.

I ghetto fabbed a shiner scoop out of an old bridge drop net for pulling up hooked SW fish and a 4ft seine net, although i haven't really put much time on it yet.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:33 AM

In really still water (like in a swamp) I have been able to use a dipnet just over the side of the boat. Mostly though, it only worked for Fundulus that I could see cruising the surface of the water. Other than that I would say that boats are better transport than they are platforms... at least in creeks.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

I ghetto fabbed a shiner scoop


Ghetto fab - now that is a quotable quote!

That is pretty much how the original shiner scoop (AKA "welaka getter") came into being. Some electrical wire and a suitable piece of netting. Also a dislike of wet feet.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:17 AM

Unfortunately when making my scoop net thingamajig I had to cut the metal hoop to run the netting. Haven't figured out a good way to re-fasten the metal ring, apparently duct taping the heck out of it only lasts for so long. I don't really have the means to weld so that's not really an option.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:32 AM

Unfortunately when making my scoop net thingamajig I had to cut the metal hoop to run the netting. Haven't figured out a good way to re-fasten the metal ring, apparently duct taping the heck out of it only lasts for so long. I don't really have the means to weld so that's not really an option.

Is it in a place where JB Weld would work? That stuff can be pretty amazing. I once patched a pencil sized hole in the bottom of the hull of a modified WW2 LCM with a milk jug cap and some JB Weld. It kept floating and hauling vehicles for at least another year or two until it was more properly repaired.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:36 AM

I was thinking of jb weld or epoxy, I may give it a go. The only thing is that to get the cut ends of the ring to line up I have to apply a little pressure to get them just right, so maybe figuring out a way to tie them together and then applying a jb weld or similar product would be the ticket.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:23 PM

You need to make a collar out of some type of metal sheeting. Kind of like a coupling on a water pipe. You can use waterproof epoxy as the glue.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

How about a short piece of strong tubing and two hose clamps?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:46 AM

Great idea, didn't think about that, a coupler or tubing would work, I'll have a look around the hardware store today. The ring has a diameter of around 1/4" or so, so it won't be hard to find something to fit.

The bag size is the other thing I need to figure out, right now it's got a good 3ft of bag behind it which i think is a bit much. Might try cutting it down to about 12-18" and seeing if it's any better to work with.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:21 PM

Well, I haven't worked on the net much, was busy today setting the summer tubs up. Also got the boat out, and it looks pretty solid apart from some chips in the paint. . Weather permitting, I'll throw it in the back of the old pickup truck tomorrow and have a look around in a nearby creek.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:06 PM

Seems like welding would be likely to catch the netting on fire anyway.



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