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white head, red tail, strean fish


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#1 Guest_greenneck_*

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:42 PM

these fish (saw 4-5) were about 3""long. could not match to any photos in peterson guide.
is this breeding color? species?

thx for help.

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#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:46 PM

so first question before I even guess... where were you? What state and river?

next, yes it is likely that it is a breeding coloration... but one thing that some people have noticed before... the blue on teh head may not really be blue... it may be tuburculation on teh head of the fish. I have noticed that a profusion of fine tubucules (that are essentially just whitish bumps on small fish) often look rather bluish when viewed from farther away or from above the waters surface.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:51 PM

Depending on whether you are in northern Indiana ( Lythrurus umbratilus) or southern Indiana (Lythrurus fasciolaris)

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:20 PM

Thx guys. i'm in extreme southern indiana. these fish were in a small creek, called dillard creek, which drains to the patoka river.
btw, L. fasciolaris is not in peterson's book.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:35 PM

It is in the new Petersons. It used to be L. ardens, but has been split and renamed scarlet shiner.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:05 AM

Looking at http://nas2.er.usgs....x?SpeciesID=567 range map, my site is guesstimated to be about 5 miles outside the shown range. perhaps it needs to include the patoka watershed.




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