
What makes a fish a good mussel host?
#1
Guest_FirstChAoS_*
Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:27 AM
It's hosts are tesselated darter, johnny darter, mottled sculpin, slimy sculpin, and juvenile atlantic salmon. This has me scratching me head as a salmon, a darter, and a sculpin are all very different fish. But its choice of hosts is limited. What do these very different species have in common to make them suitable as a host when many other fish cannot? You'd assume the southern part of its range would have other darter species and the north other salmonoids. It ranged from Canada to North Carolina before its range got depleted so must cover alot of fish species in that range. The few it selects seem odd.
#2
Guest_EricaWieser_*
Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:37 AM
I am reminded of the snuffbox mussel.
Here is a video of normal logperch behavior, rolling mussels: http://unionid.misso...sma/rollers.wmv
Now here is a video of a snuffbox capturing a logperch: http://unionid.misso..._snuffbox_1.wmv
More videos at http://bogleech.com/...clampirism.html and the Unio Gallery, http://unionid.misso...sma/default.htm
Edited by EricaWieser, 25 August 2012 - 08:42 AM.
#3
Guest_rjmtx_*
Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:49 AM
Now I'm waiting for someone who knows what they're talking about to chime in and tell me how wrong I am...
Edited by rjmtx, 25 August 2012 - 09:50 AM.
#4
Guest_exasperatus2002_*
Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:22 PM
#5
Guest_mywan_*
Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:28 AM
It seems to me it would actually make sense they are limited to juvenile atlantic salmon. Juvenile atlantic salmon remain in fresh water from 1 to 8 years, depending on location. Whatever host is taken must be present around April, during the release of glochidia. Salmon spawning also tend to be at various times in the fall. This makes the fry available during the glochidia release around April, and these fry will not leave these fresh waters for at least a year. Adult atlantic salmon simply don't appear to be generally available during this release time. Seems to make sense to me, but I am still just guessing.I'd have said they're all bottom dwellers most likely to encounter the mussel, till you said juvenile salmon.
#6
Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 26 August 2012 - 07:05 AM
1) darters and scuplins are benthic fish, dwarf wedgemussel glochidia are relatively large (150 microns) and therefore sink. Size of glochidia and host strategy matter.
2) both species co-occur throughout most of their ranges and have co-evolved together
3) for the most part they occupy similar habitats, although for both fish and mussels it varies quite a bit. Dwarf wedgmussel streams in the Chesapeake Bay watershed (which I'll be surveying next week) look nothing like those in the Delaware River watershed.
I've heard that dwarf wedgemussel (in Maine) may move mantle tissue and mimic a midge larvae, but well developed lures and active attraction strategies are not something found in that sub-family/tribe of mussels.
Salmon were found suitable in lab experiments. That doesn't mean it actually happens in the wild. Amphibians and tropical fish are often suitable lab hosts because they have no immunity to glochidial attachment. Salmon also don't span the entire historic range of dwarf wedgemussel. Neither does shield darter, which was also recently found to be a suitable lab host.
#7
Guest_gerald_*
Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:56 PM
Also, I've wondered why certain streams with huge populations of common Elliptios are totally lacking any "rare" mussel species. Maybe it's got something to do with the extreme exposure to Elliptio glochidia making the fishes hyper-sensitive to all mussel glochidia ???
The Tar and Neuse Rivers in NC (southern limit of dwarf wedgemussel) have 5 or 6 darter species but no sculpins or salmonids. Other common benthic-feeding fish that might be frequently exposed to DWM glochidia include bluehead chub, swallowtail and satinfin shiners, margined and Carolina madtoms, bullheads, redhorses, hogsucker, eel, redbreast, and Roanoke rockbass. Dont know if any of those have been tested as possible DWM hosts.
I guess most if not all of our mussel/fish host knowledge is from lab tests, correct? Has anybody identified DWM glochidia on wild caught fish?
#8
Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:42 PM
I think in part what you are seeing is that Elliptio are (at least in the Mid-Atlantic) habitat generalists and relic populations of dwarf wedgemussel. We actually find dwarf wedgemussel in streams LOADED with Elliptio, I'm talking 1000+ in a couple hundred square meters of stream, and that is just at the surface. Three to six species too (which is DIVERSE here). The Delaware River drainage streams are the opposite. Also, many of the rarer Atlantic species are in different tribes/subfamilies and thus have different hosts because different types of glochidia and infection strategies.
Sculpins and salmonids don't co-occur over a decent part of DWM range. Host use is also something that varies regionally. Unfortunately host suitability studies aren't often conducted regionally. A good example is the manuscript on Northern Lance from NC. None of its confirmed hosts are native to Maryland, yet the type locality of the species is in Maryland. Something else has to be working that didn't in that study or wasn't looked at. They didn't show up with bluegill. Also, I've noticed on the rare occasion that fish taxonomy doesn't always tend to be kept up to date by mussel folks. So the lack of sympatry between mussel and host aren't always real. So I'm guessing one of your 5 or 6 species you have is johnny/tessellated darters, and something closely related to shield darters. Johnny/Tessellated seem to be the common bond and most used in the wild.
Most are lab tests, but wild caught fish have been used and most recently genetic primers have been developed to ID glochidia, which gets really tough in multi-species assemblages.
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