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Posted 25 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

These are the rest of the fish that I've always wanted a definitive ID on...For all of these fish it is hard to find good pics on the net

Planehead Filefish? I've seen it vary in appearance alot

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 05:22 PM

Is this same species as the above fish?

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 05:23 PM

Sand Seatrout or Silver Seatrout. Caught in Sarasota in the bay

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 05:24 PM

This one was caught in Sarasota but out in 30 ft of water couple miles offshore, same species?

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 09:11 PM

You certainly catch a good variety of species! First two I think are both planehead filefish -- deep body shape, lack of distinguishing features. The second two are trickier because they are both very similar -- I'll tentatively call the second a sand seatrout, but the first I can't say for sure. I enlarged your picture and counted fin rays. When I have seen them before, they were caught in nets. This makes things easier because silver seatrout lose scales easily, but sand seatrout do not

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

Thanks Mzokan- I'll just go with Sand Seatrout for both of those fish, I held them and don't recall scales coming off.

What about this stingray? Caught 3 weeks ago off a Long Island beach. This thing was a Beast. Not sure if it's a Bluntnose Ray, Roughtail Ray, or a far wandering Southern Stingray. Any idea?

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:31 AM

Another view

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:34 AM

Ok last one (I think). Might as well try to get a confirm on this guy because he was so out of place. I caught this Grouper off a dock on south shore Long Island. It looks similar to the Gag Groupers I catch in Florida but I'm not sure. He lives in my fish tank now

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 12:01 PM

I looked up Long Island stingrays on google and found a page on Ny and NJ skates and rays. http://njscuba.net/b...kates_rays.html

It said the bluntnose stingray is most common in the area but the atlantic and southern have both been known to stray into the area.

A little bit more reading shows the roughtail stingray also occurs in the area.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:44 PM

Chaos- Thanks I found that too, hard to tell. This thing says Roughtail is more common aruond Long Island. http://www.newsday.c...sland-1.1369886


They all look so similar

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:01 AM

I think the stingray is a bluntnose -- a roughtail would have denticles running the length of the tail and an Atlantic would have a more pointed snout, southern is harder to rule out, but the wings would be more pointed and have more of a diamond shape overall

And your grouper is a gag -- a black would have a bolder, more regular color pattern

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:56 PM

Bluntnose seeming the most likely, thanks for the Gag confirmation too




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