I've been using Pflieger's The Fishes of Missouri, and I'm still stumped on this one.
I caught this fish while microfishing in Hinkson Creek (a small stream that runs through Columbia, Missouri....I believe it dumps into Perche Creek a couple miles before Perche Creek dumps into the Missouri River).
The two individuals I caught were from a shallow riffle.
I have caught Common Shiner and Red Shiner in this creek a few miles downstream of this location, but I can't convince myself it's either of those.
Based on my book, the following minnows are possible, but I've ruled them out: Golden Shiner, Creek Chub, Silver Chub, Suckermouth Minnow, Ghost Shiner, Western Silvery Minnow, Plains Minnow, Bluntnose Minnow, Fathead Minnow, and Central Stoneroller
These are the ones I'm still considering: Common Shiner, Red Shiner, Redfin Shiner, Emerald Shiner, Bigmouth Shiner, Sand Shiner.
So....am I on the right track or have I eliminated something I should be taking another look at?
Here are a few photos:
Shiner (?) in central Missouri
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Guest_rndouglas_*
, Aug 11 2013 07:23 AM
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#1 Guest_rndouglas_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:23 AM
#2 Guest_gerald_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 10:37 AM
It looks like one of the true Notropis shiners, not a Luxilus, Lythrurus or Cyprinella, and its not an emerald (which has dorsal fin farther back behind pelvics), so based on your list i think the last two choices are possibilities: sand or bigmouth. Dont know if there may be others you havent listed. Loks like 7 or maybe 8 anal fin rays - that should help narrow it.
#3 Guest_rndouglas_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 11:22 AM
Thanks for the reply! I was starting to zero in on Sand Shiner over Bigmouth for a couple reasons: 7 anal fin rays (seen better in another photo I don't have online), and the length of the upper jaw is only about 2/3 the diameter of the eye (measured in Photoshop).
#4 Guest_Skipjack_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:18 PM
Looks like a sand shiner to me.
#5 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:24 PM
Kudos to you!
This is a great ID thread, a person who actually has decent photos, and even tried to make an EDUCATED attempt to ID it.
Great job at narrowing it down...I sure suck at Notropis IDs
This is a great ID thread, a person who actually has decent photos, and even tried to make an EDUCATED attempt to ID it.
Great job at narrowing it down...I sure suck at Notropis IDs
#6 Guest_rndouglas_*
Posted 11 August 2013 - 01:20 PM
I'm very big on IDing just about every vertebrate I encounter....and these minnows are giving me a run for my money! I come from a birding background, and I'd guess minnows are the birding equivalent of Calidris sp. sandpipers; frustrating and fun at the same time.
At least I get to have the minnows in hand instead of a quarter-mile away like the sandpipers!
At least I get to have the minnows in hand instead of a quarter-mile away like the sandpipers!
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