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Southern Versions of Northern Fish

Started by Guest_Yeahson421_* , Aug 14 2013 11:53 PM

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#1 Guest_Yeahson421_*

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:53 PM

Hello everyone, so, some of you may have read about my backyard fish pond, It is rather large, one area ( ) designed to be similar to a stream by using a rocky substrate and being closest to the filter outflow, the other ( ) made to be a slower flowing river. I was originally intending to stock them with MN natives, but after discovering that according to MN laws I can't sell or distribute commercially ( According to the state, any time money changes hands ), however, from what I've heard from people with the DNR and how the law reads, as long as it is not MN native, federally endangered, illegal in the state, or on a no transport list, I can do whatever I wish. So, now I need to find some non MN native versions of the following fish species

Stream Section:
1. Central Stoneroller
2. Hornyhead Chub
4. Northern Hog Sucker
3. Crystal and Western Sand Darter (To see if it is possible to breed them in such situation, as I know they are heavily endangered in some areas)

River Section:
1. Some form of smaller, colorful Sunfish. I was thinking about all three Enneacanthus, but would I also be able to put Dollar Sunfish in there with them?
2. Iowa and Mud Darters
3. Slackwater, colorful shiner of some kind.

Now, keep in mind, these fish have to be able to stand an MN winter (Zone 5). Would it be safe to assume that most natives, other than Florida and Texas and similar states' natives would be able to manage?

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#2 Guest_FirstChAoS_*

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:43 AM

Not sure of in a pond where their is space and cover, but NEVER put dollar sunfish with ennecanthus in a tank. Dollars are very agressive, especially to other sunnies. If they do not kill the ennecathus directly they will stress it to death. I know from past experience.

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#3 Guest_Yeahson421_*

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 01:23 AM

I seem to hear a lot about Dollars being aggressive, but all of the dollars I've ever had have been terribly passive.

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#4 Michael Wolfe

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North Georgia, Oconee River Drainage

Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:20 AM

Stream Section:
1. Central Stoneroller
2. Hornyhead Chub
4. Northern Hog Sucker
3. Crystal and Western Sand Darter (To see if it is possible to breed them in such situation, as I know they are heavily endangered in some areas)

River Section:
1. Some form of smaller, colorful Sunfish. I was thinking about all three Enneacanthus, but would I also be able to put Dollar Sunfish in there with them?
2. Iowa and Mud Darters
3. Slackwater, colorful shiner of some kind.

Hey Evan,

Stream Section:
1.Bluefin Stoneroller (native here in north GA)
2.Bluehead Chub (native here in north GA)
3.Alabama Hogsucker (native here in north GA)
4.I dont know this one off the top of my head

River Section:
1. Dollar would be a good choice in my opinion, your system is big enough... might also try L. punctatus as a second choice (again, both available down here with a little microfishing)
2. lots of choices down here... maybe bluebreast, maybe logperch, but I am not sure what is native for you
3. maybe a nice Cyprinella, even tricolors?

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