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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:42 PM
I need help identifying this fish. It was caught in Western NY. Sorry for the bad picture, didn't have my photo tank with me. (I was fishing for Sunfish) Thanks for any help in advance.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:02 PM
Kill it! It's not your friendly neighborhood sculpin.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:09 PM
Too late, I already let it go. And, why? What kind of fish is it?
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:30 PM
I think I gave you some pretty darn good hints. Here is one more. It is a terrible invasive in great lakes drainages.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:37 PM
I looked here: http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/265.html and it isn't on the list of invasive species. Is it a Round Goby?
Edited by thegreensunfish, 26 August 2013 - 01:52 PM.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:14 PM
That is sure what it looks like to me. I do not have much experience with them, but that is my bet.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:30 PM
Did you notice a prominent spot in the first dorsal. If it was there, it is for sure a round goby. You should report this to your state DNR.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:34 PM
Looks like a round goby to me as well
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:59 PM
Yes, it's a round goby. I just recently saw a news report that they're invading the Finger Lakes; hopefully this wasn't from a drainage that they're not previously known from...
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:13 PM
How can I find a list of which drainages they have already invaded?
Yes, it's a round goby. I just recently saw a news report that they're invading the Finger Lakes; hopefully this wasn't from a drainage that they're not previously known from...
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:18 PM
I went back and looked through the pictures and found this:
It doesn't look like it has a black spot.
It doesn't look like it has a black spot.
Did you notice a prominent spot in the first dorsal. If it was there, it is for sure a round goby. You should report this to your state DNR.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:24 PM
It's there on the rear edge. No doubt a round goby.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:50 PM
There is nothing else that looks like a round goby that is native besides sculpin. Dave Neely says it is a round goby, and that is pretty well final.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:09 PM
I can't remember where I saw this, might have been posted by someone on here.
http://www.stargazet...und-Cayuga-Lake
http://blog.syracuse..._now_in_ca.html
so it appears that they're minimally in Cayuga, Cross, and Onondaga lakes and the Seneca and Oneida rivers... I know they've been observed in other tribs of Erie and Ontario, but as to how far upstream they'll go, it's anyone's guess. if where you found it isn't one of these places you need to call DEC ASAP.
http://www.stargazet...und-Cayuga-Lake
http://blog.syracuse..._now_in_ca.html
so it appears that they're minimally in Cayuga, Cross, and Onondaga lakes and the Seneca and Oneida rivers... I know they've been observed in other tribs of Erie and Ontario, but as to how far upstream they'll go, it's anyone's guess. if where you found it isn't one of these places you need to call DEC ASAP.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:38 PM
Just to be contrary, I would like to point out for the record that this is an instance where someone could not make a streamside ID, and released a fish which possibly has scientific value given what it now appears to be and its location.
Fortunately, the photos are pretty good.
Fortunately, the photos are pretty good.
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:01 AM
Even a blind squirrel will find a nut in the woods once in a while. It doesn't mean NANFA's policy is flawed at all.
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:25 PM
Besides, the scientific value would be minimal, I should think.
"Hey guys, I found a round goby in such a place!"
"We don't believe you."
"No, really! Here's a clear photo that I took of it!"
"That's obviously a fake, and it doesn't prove anything anyway!"
"But...awww, the hell with it. I released it - no harm, no foul."
"NO! YOU FOOL!! "
"Hey guys, I found a round goby in such a place!"
"We don't believe you."
"No, really! Here's a clear photo that I took of it!"
"That's obviously a fake, and it doesn't prove anything anyway!"
"But...awww, the hell with it. I released it - no harm, no foul."
"NO! YOU FOOL!! "
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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:10 AM
For future reference, where can I find a complete and up to date list of invasive fish species in NY?
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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:14 AM
Visit your local fish store. That will just about cover it.
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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:12 PM
Avalanche. I would search the DNR site more, and also look into the aquaculture section.
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