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#1 Guest_pepe_*

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 01:40 PM

I just wanted to say hello to everyone. I'm in the process of setting up my first native tank and am very much looking forward to the experience. I've been snooping around this forum for a while and have learned a great deal but still have much to learn.

#2 littlen

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 01:51 PM

Hello pepe. What area of VA are you in? I'm actually in Northern Va, about 20 miles SW of Washington DC. If you're from the western half of the state, Derek (who will hopefully chime in) can certainly help you with acquiring fish--depending on which direction you want to go. What sort of specific information are you looking for? Help us with our suggestions by providing information like tank size, and a desired list. Most people on the forum are avid fish keepers and will get you started.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 02:02 PM

I live in the Shenendoah Valley.It's a seventy-five gl.tank. I really wanted to keep green fin shiners and maybe one other compatable species but I've been reading how green fin shiners can be too aggressive so now I'm not sure.I really did set this tank up for the green fin's though

#4 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 03:15 PM

Greenfins are not that bad. Sure, they are a a Cyprinella with the associated attitude, but in a seventy five, there will be lots of room for another species or two that can avoid the worst of the aggression. Something like a few Nocomis chubs would be fine, and you could also add a less dominant Notropis that might get chased, but should be able to avoid the territorial needs of the greenfin.
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#5 littlen

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:25 AM

I agree with Michael. When one hears the word "aggressive" used to describe a fish--usually it is associated with 'cichlid-like' aggression. This is obviously not the case with Cyprinella shiners. Sure, of our native fish, this group is more dominant, but they usually take their aggression out on one another. But that is what makes shiners fun to own and watch. The most serious damage they do is a little fin picking among mature males as they establish themselves. In a 75 you'll have room for a fairly large school of Greenfins. I'd easily get a dozen or two. You live in a good area for some James River drainage species. Think about adding some darters to your tank. They live side by side with the shiners, yet rarely if at all do they interact with them.

Good luck.
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#6 mattknepley

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 07:33 AM

I agree with Michael and Nick. Greenfins can be rough, but mostly with each other, and with enough room they'll be fine tank mates for many other fish. I have noticed with mine that the more there are, the more interaction there is, but the less abuse any one fish takes. They also take less notice of other tank mates when they have more of their own kind to worry about. (And the sparring is fascinating to watch.) My greenfins only make the occasional run at other fish in the tank, and it only lasts long enough to chase them away from whatever Mr. or Ms. Cyprinella felt especially attached to at that moment. (The noticeable exception was my creek chubsucker, who seemed to get more unwanted interaction with the greenfins than any other fish, but now that he is easily bigger than they are he's left alone, too.) In addition to the chubsucker, I keep my C. chloristia with darters (Christmas, tessellated, turquoise, Piedmont, Carolina, and blackline), and other shiners (greenhead, spottail, dusky). Everything seems to go well.

PS. C. chloristia are crevice spawners. If you have "rock on rock" or other nook and cranny type features, you'll probably see reproductive type behavior. Mine do it quite often, though I don't hold out much hope for any success in their current housing.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 10:29 PM

Hello Pepe, I'm Derek from Blacksburg (formerly Fredericksburg). Always glad to have another Virginian on board and I'm happy to help any way I can. I'll vouch for everyone's advice about Cyprinella. They are very active fish and frequently flash and display to each other and other mid-water fish, but I have never seen any damage come from it besides it sometimes appears to be an unpleasant experience for a fish that may just be an innocent bystander. But they are beautiful flashy fish that can catch your eye from across the room when they flare their reflective fins. And if you have males and females and have any sort of rock stacking (I even saw my current male satinfin staking out territory around the slots in my filter intake) you have a good chance of getting eggs. I've raised satinfins before and it's easy as pie.

If you're interested in collecting your own nearby (rather than purchasing or travelling to the Carolinas to get greenfins) Satinfin shiners are common in much of the state (was almost a guaranteed catch near Fredericksburg) and have much the same characteristics of the greenfins, except they get slightly larger and don't have green in the fins. Either way, I'm pretty convinced that any Cyprinella species makes a great tank fish.

Let me know if I can help more.
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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:02 AM

Thank You everyone for all the helpful information. I,m moving ahead with my plan for Greenfin's,just waiting for the tank to cycle.The fish in post 7 is gorgeous,just a guess but is that a spotfin getting ready to breed? Thanks Again

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 12:13 PM

Derek's pic is of satinfin shiners - just as beautiful as greenfins IMO. In captivity with good diet and water quality they can keep the iridescent fins colors all year. I would get at LEAST five of any Cyprinella, and preferably more. If you try keeping 2 to 4 fish, one may terrorize the others constantly.

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:53 PM

I think I love all Cyprinella

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:55 PM

Hello and welcome :biggrin:



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