Hi im new. Ive been thinking about converting my 800-900 gallon koi pond into a brackish ( 18 % seawater) pond with native species. Unfortunatley i live in ontario so my options are pretty limiting but im kinda determined to do this especially after seeing a bermuda salt pond. The dimensions of the pond are 8 ft long 6 ft wide and 5 ft deep in a square shape. The bottom substrate will be playsand and rubble rock. So in summary what species of fish could i keep in the pond and how probable is it?
Native brackish fish?
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, Apr 20 2014 02:24 PM
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 02:34 PM
I love breeding fish, so if it were me, I'd fill it with a rare aquarium sized species and then scoop them out frequently and sell them. Examples include the non-pet-store molly species and diamond killifish. Diamond killifish are not currently available on places like aquabid.com, so you'd be the only vendor offering them. Monopoly lends its own benefits, like a higher price. Also by offering something that no one else is, you're enriching the hobby as a whole.
Diamond killifish: http://www.nanfa.org.../acadinia.shtml
Photo by Terceira, A.C.:
http://fishbase.org....66&what=species
Example of unusual molly species, the Liberty molly (Poecilia salvatoris):
http://www.faszinati...lliiArtikel.htm
And since it's brackish you could breed some cool species of nerite snails, which command a high price online.
Nerites are good algae eaters, don't breed in freshwater, and have pretty shells:
http://www.weirdsnap...tion-of-snails/
Diamond killifish: http://www.nanfa.org.../acadinia.shtml
Photo by Terceira, A.C.:
http://fishbase.org....66&what=species
Example of unusual molly species, the Liberty molly (Poecilia salvatoris):
http://www.faszinati...lliiArtikel.htm
And since it's brackish you could breed some cool species of nerite snails, which command a high price online.
Nerites are good algae eaters, don't breed in freshwater, and have pretty shells:
http://www.weirdsnap...tion-of-snails/
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 02:42 PM
Oh, I wasn't saying that they would. You put a few fish in the pond in the spring, wait a few months, and then in the fall drain the pond and harvest lots and lots more fish than you originally put in. You store them in some sort of holding tank in the winter as you slowly portion them out via online sales. It's a pretty common method of breeding fish. Next year you can do the same species or a different one, maybe mix things up. It's fun, constantly changing, and profitable.Both look pretty cool but i doubt they would survive below freezing winters here.
Example: Put one of these Rubbermaid 300 gallon containers in your basement, put ceratophyllum in it and T8 shop lights over it, and your fish will be held very well for cheap.
http://www.instructa...-Tub/4/?lang=pt
My bucket tank:
http://youtu.be/-uIvjlV6Z38
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http://youtu.be/GpcLMyjBWRM
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You'd probably want like a few air stones or a pump or something 'cause the rubbermaid tub is deeper than my bucket tanks. Two 1300 GPH powerheads are $25 total on ebay, including shipping. That'd move the water around. Or two $10 air pumps and two $3 long style air stones. Both'd work. The filtration is really done by the plants (examine table 2 here http://www.theaquari...al_Filtration )
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 02:56 PM
*shrugs* A lot of my fish keeping is motivated by profit margin. Two pairs of diamond killifish sold for $25 recently, making each fish worth around $5 each.
http://www.aquabid.c...ifish1361244968
If you could start out with like 20 fish and turn them into even 200 fish, that would be a potential for like 200*5 = $1,000. I said 200 because that's the number of fry I generated with my bucket tank and a 10 gallon tank recently breeding elassoma okefenokee, a similar species that unfortunately I cannot sell for $5 each, lol. But yeah, who knows how many you could generate with an 800 gallon pond. Well, probably Brian Zimmerman could estimate what the population expansion would be like, because he breeds his fish in ponds.
http://www.zimmerman....com/Price.html
^great vendor, excellent pond bred fish, very healthy and beautiful
http://www.aquabid.c...ifish1361244968
If you could start out with like 20 fish and turn them into even 200 fish, that would be a potential for like 200*5 = $1,000. I said 200 because that's the number of fry I generated with my bucket tank and a 10 gallon tank recently breeding elassoma okefenokee, a similar species that unfortunately I cannot sell for $5 each, lol. But yeah, who knows how many you could generate with an 800 gallon pond. Well, probably Brian Zimmerman could estimate what the population expansion would be like, because he breeds his fish in ponds.
http://www.zimmerman....com/Price.html
^great vendor, excellent pond bred fish, very healthy and beautiful
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 03:13 PM
Well it does seem like a good idea but i just don't have the resources to breed and keep fish like these. Especially since I'm only in my second year of high-school. Il probably do this when i get my own property and a stable job.
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 07:54 PM
I'd see if you can get ahold of a fishes of your area guide. Looking briefly at a map, you're not near the ocean, so I have no idea what you might have that is native and brackish.
You should check out your fishing regulations to figure out what you are allowed to transport live (looks like baitfish), and consider getting a fishing license if you plan to catch your own fish for your pond: http://www.mnr.gov.o...ment/198219.pdf
http://www.dfo-mpo.g...ec/regs-eng.htm also looks useful.
You should check out your fishing regulations to figure out what you are allowed to transport live (looks like baitfish), and consider getting a fishing license if you plan to catch your own fish for your pond: http://www.mnr.gov.o...ment/198219.pdf
http://www.dfo-mpo.g...ec/regs-eng.htm also looks useful.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:43 PM
Pretty please document your pond build if you do. That goes for everyone: as an apartment dweller I must live vicariously through all of you, so please share photos of your builds! I'd love to see themDang. It sounds like I'm going to have to launch an expedition for Diamonds in te very near future.
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