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#1 Guest_sbtgrfan_*

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:33 PM

Hey yall,

Shot this pic while taking a lunch break during work and I think I've got it narrowed down to either Rainbow Darter or Orangethroat Darter. This is from Big Piney Creek in NW Arkansas. I'm leaning towards Orangethroat based on the more spotted lateral stripe and the half colored/half plain body as I've never noticed a rainbow with those characteristics. I've also got other pictures that show the preorbital stripe being broken and unless I read something wrong, that's a characteristic of an Orangethroat and not Rainbow. I could be wrong though. Any help?

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#2 mattknepley

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:44 AM

Stephen! I can't tell you what it is, but it's good to hear from ya!
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#3 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:29 AM

It looks like spectabile to me as well, but I have recently seen some photos of some really funky looking rainbows in Arkansas.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:38 AM

I agree with DLV, E. spectabile

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:36 PM

I can't remember where I got this graphic, so I apologize that I can't give the owner credit (I'll add the reference if anyone knows it).

Based on the location, would it be one of the species being split off from E. spectabile?

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#6 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:56 PM

My first thought was orangethroat as well, but I wasn't entirely confident. It can be tough as there are various forms of both orangethroats and rainbows in the Ozarks. The Big Piney is an Arkansas River drainage stream, so your fish would likely be E. pulchellum based on Ben's map.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:10 PM

Thanks guys. I'm comfortable calling it a subspecies, as E. pulchellum. Either way, still a cool fish. There were a ton of them around. Almost every rock had one under it or around it. I stood in the river and must have had 20 or 30 surround my feet, all of various sizes, it's crazy.

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 08:51 AM

The map may be based on work, and assembled by, Pat Ceas.




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