The bullhead will eat everything.
What Natives Could I Do In My Pond?
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Sean Phillips
, Sep 01 2014 03:19 PM
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Michael Wolfe
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 02:55 PM
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 03:07 PM
You won't have anything left that you want after a few months with those guys in there.
Notemigomus should breed, are not delicate, and get large enough to see from above. A fish to consider.
I have never kept them, but from the habitat that I have seen them in, I don't think longnose dace would thrive. That is just speculation.
I would suggest stocking slowly, and creating an ecosystem. Leave it fishless until you get lots of larval insects, maybe add some daphnia and gammarus. Maybe grass shrimp as well. Then start with small fish that reproduce quickly, and work your way up.
Notemigomus should breed, are not delicate, and get large enough to see from above. A fish to consider.
I have never kept them, but from the habitat that I have seen them in, I don't think longnose dace would thrive. That is just speculation.
I would suggest stocking slowly, and creating an ecosystem. Leave it fishless until you get lots of larval insects, maybe add some daphnia and gammarus. Maybe grass shrimp as well. Then start with small fish that reproduce quickly, and work your way up.
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Sean Phillips
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:56 PM
Ok well I think I have to forget small fish. Went to my LFS and there were three 2" yellow bullheads in a ghost shrimp tank that had a death sentence to be culled later so the owner/my friend gave them to me (not sold, gave so it's legal). Have them in a 5.5 for now until they hit 3.5" then going in a Rubbermaid bin so looks like I'll have to have a note predatory community in my pond since I don't have tank space for 4 adult bullheads. So I guess I'll start he base stock over (I'm sure you're all thrilled 
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3 Yellow Perch
4 Yellow Bullheads
6 Pumpkinseeds
6 Redbreast Sunfish
Are there any large minnows, darters, Killies, etc that average to large for the bullheads to eat to many of such as logperch or creek chubs.
).3 Yellow Perch
4 Yellow Bullheads
6 Pumpkinseeds
6 Redbreast Sunfish
Are there any large minnows, darters, Killies, etc that average to large for the bullheads to eat to many of such as logperch or creek chubs.
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:27 PM
Get a good net and a good friend, and just keep it stocked with easy to obtain local minnows. Some will be eaten, but they will also be interesting while they are alive in your pond. No big deal.
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:28 PM
you are just growing catfish now... this is not a community just a buffet.
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Sean Phillips
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:01 PM
Get a good net and a good friend, and just keep it stocked with easy to obtain local minnows. Some will be eaten, but they will also be interesting while they are alive in your pond. No big deal.
Alright, just don't want to take to many. Are there any prolific breeding minnows local to me (my pittsburgh area) if they spawned multiple times a year that might keep the population present before the bullheads can eat them all.
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:02 PM
you are just growing catfish now... this is not a community just a buffet.
Lol, what can I say other than I love native cats
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:21 PM
In a decent sized stream, you can hardly hurt pimephales or campostoma. I would not go to the same stream each time though. I would also supplement the pond with other foods to avoid having to collect as many feeder fish.
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Sean Phillips
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:28 PM
In a decent sized stream, you can't hurt pimephales or campostoma.
Cool, I'm a fan of Stonerollers. Just don't have a big enough tank to keep them inside now. Would having a blueXchannel cat hybrid in the pond threaten the bullheads, sunfish, and perch as well as the minnows! There's always tons at my one LFS and it's so tempting to get one since they look like sharks when they're big
. Might as well go predatory at this point with all these bullheads and perch I'm adding.
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage
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