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#1 Sean Phillips

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:47 PM

I have a friend who's not really into natives but he's obsessed with fish and has 257 tanks running now. Anyway his only natives are about 10 Flame Chubs that he's not overly attached to and seeing as they're very rare I was debating trying to find a price he'd sell them to me for. Because they're a threatened species (I believe) I'd want to breed them if I got them and was wondering how one would go about breeding them? I read an article saying that the temp needs to drop to 45 then go up to 65 in order for them to spawn but the coolest I could get a tank in my house would be 63-64 or so. Would it be possible for me to breed these fish!
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage

#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:57 PM

Search here on the forum. There are a few threads. I kept a dozen or so juveniles outside last winter and they did not breed. I am trying again this year with different individuals from the same group. These are F1s that were captive bred by Bob Muller. So I know they can be bred, but Bob is an expert breeder compared to me (maybe compared to everyone). On the other hand, he has stated publicly that they are relatively easy to breed. I think it would be possible to breed these, and think that you should give it a try! They are a very cool fish and well worth your effort.
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#3 Sean Phillips

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:23 PM

Cool. I might try then. I'm going to have a 24"x12"x16" available for stocking pretty soon and I think I might try to get the chubs off him. How do they go about spawning?
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage

#4 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:31 PM

For one thing, in nature they are among the first cyprinids to spawn, January/February in north Alabama. They hang out in shallow weedy water on the edge of slow current. In the upper forks of the Paint Rock River in 'bama we've found them in what are best described as naturally occurring "tunnels" of dead grasses and sticks that are the edge of the bank in about 2 cm of water. In some spring pools they'll form loose schools, but that's usually in the absence of any fishy predators. Whatever Bob did, do it, is my short advice like Michael said.

#5 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:25 PM

because of this very early breeding season, I was hoping to get mine to breed outside in the early spring... but my outdoor ponds don't really have any current... which may have been my problem... the other possibility (I hope) is that they were just too young to really get things going... so maybe I get some action this winter?
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#6 Sean Phillips

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:44 PM

This seems to be a difficult task. Especially for someone like me who's only ever bred cichlids and guppies :). I think I'll wait until I have some more experience breeding natives under my belt. Off topic a bit, any suggestions of easy natives for me to breed in a 20 high? I was considering Elassoma, Gambusia, Dollar Sunfish, or Rainbow Shiners
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage

#7 Guest_Kanus_*

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 07:19 AM

I still have about a dozen from the F1's Bob brought to KY and I too had no luck breeding them this past spring, though I was told they should be able to breed their first year. I really hope to get some production this time around because they are fantastic aquarium fish. But of course I too am amateur at best when it comes to breeding fish. Fingers crossed, and/or hope to hear success from some of you as well.



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