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Emerald Shiner?

Started by Guest_cjohns_* , Oct 12 2014 05:34 PM

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#1 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:34 PM

These little guys are ever where in a local stream buy my house. Tributary of salt River. Kentucky. Pretty sure they are Emerald Shiners but figured I would ask to be sure.

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#2 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:43 PM

Might want to look at mimic shiner as a possibility Sand shiner as well.

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#3 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:12 PM

Might want to look at mimic shiner as a possibility Sand shiner as well.

I looked at the mimic but I have not checked
Sand yet.

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#4 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:24 PM

I am not very good at ID from photos at all, and only okay on the stream, but I am not feeling emerald. I was actually thinking mimic myself. But I may be very wrong.

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#5 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:08 PM

They flash a bright green when the light hits them in the water. That's why I was thinking Emerald but this one could very well be a mimic I'm sure they would school together. I just randomly picked one out of a net full thinking the we're all the same.

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#6 mattknepley

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Smack-dab between the Savannah and the Saluda.

Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:42 AM

Funny how they are so stubborn about showing their "field colors" in photos.

Matt Knepley
"No thanks, a third of a gopher would merely arouse my appetite..."

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#7 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:25 PM

The very small anterior scales and slender build makes me think it could be a Lythrurus shiner.

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#8 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:34 PM

Bet you're right Gerald. They would then be small scarlet shiners, which would make much more of a greenish flash in the water.

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#9 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 03:43 AM

Next time I go I'll get a couple different pictures of more then one fish.

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#10 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 02:55 PM

Here is another one probably doesn't help much.

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#11 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 03:07 PM

It is a scarlet shiner. You need a small critter carrier, or something to use as a photo tank. You will get much better ID's that way.

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#12 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 03:17 PM

It is a scarlet shiner. You need a small critter carrier, or something to use as a photo tank. You will get much better ID's that way.

I have one I just ran off and left it. Thanks for the help. My Peterson field guide is at a friends so I was having trouble trying to ID these little guys.

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#13 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 04:16 PM

Keep some, they are great fish, and if you feed them well, they can keep some nice color year around as they become adults.

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#14 Guest_cjohns_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 04:24 PM

Keep some, they are great fish, and if you feed them well, they can keep some nice color year around as they become adults.

I'll do that they will make good tank mates with my darters.

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#15 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 09:14 PM

Actually your last pic DOES help. Notice how much smaller the scales are in front of the dorsal fin vs behaind the dorsal - a Lythrurus characteristic. In emeralds and most other shiners the anterior scales would be slightly smaller than the rear ones, but not as conspicuously smaller as in that fish.