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[Kanus]

 

 

 

Quick video of my satinfin trying to show the whitetail (twice his size) who was boss. Please excuse the overstocked appearance of the tank. Some of that it due to the video being shot through the end, rather than the front, of the tank.

[Chasmodes]

Very cool vid!

[smbass]

I took some video of the two whitetails and the steelcolor while taking those photos too. Guess I should post them somewhere for you all to see...

 

Derek my other thought was maybe we just need some fireyblacks from a different locality? Maybe it is not the species but just something about the fish from that spot.

[Josh Blaylock]

Brian,

 

Love the photos.  I'm like you, I love Cyps, and my big male Whitetail loves to spar with other cyps, and chubs.  There's nothing like a displaying male Cyp Shiner.  The last photos, is that a Steelcolor?  It appears to be a thicker bodied fish.

 

I too had/have issues with the Fireyblack Shiners.  I brough 4-5 back and most wasted away.  I currently only have one.  It was a juvenile when I brought him back, but he's is growing and doing well.  The others were adults and they didn't make it.

[Josh Blaylock]

Brian,

 

Love the photos.  I'm like you, I love Cyps, and my big male Whitetail loves to spar with other cyps, and chubs.  There's nothing like a displaying male Cyp Shiner.  The last photos, is that a Steelcolor?  It appears to be a thicker bodied fish.

 

I too had/have issues with the Fireyblack Shiners.  I brough 4-5 back and most wasted away.  I currently only have one.  It was a juvenile when I brought him back, but he's is growing and doing well.  The others were adults and they didn't make it.

 

Was thinking the thicker bodied fish could be C. lutrensis...but I've never seen one of those in person, so I'm not familar with that species. 

 

Since we're showing off Cyprinella, here's mine sparring with a chub from a couple weeks ago.

 

[Michael Wolfe]

Dude... those dogs ain't fighting... that ones just giving the other a piggy back ride... if ya know what I mean...

 

yep... a little across-species somethin-somethin...

[Michael Wolfe]

This is how whitetails do it!

 

 

[mattknepley]

Dude-bro knows just the music to set the mood.

[Chasmodes]

I am loving this thread...great stuff guys.

[smbass]

Yeah Josh the last several photos are primarily of a male steelcolor shiner Cyprinella whipplei. The first few were mostly whitetail C. galactura with the C. whipplei in the background and then the first two of my second post were a male tricolor shiner C. trichroistia (not sure I spelled that one right).

 

I'm glad we all seem to have had trouble with the Fireyblacks from the convention site. Maybe mine will get a spawn in before they completely waste away and the young will do better.

 

Either way I'm going to start trying to sort out a breeding group of C. whipplei from all the C. spiloptera I have locally. Spiloptera is one of the most common fish in Ohio and there are no areas that just have whipplei (plenty of places with just spiloptera). Young and females look very similar. I have figured out how to confidently ID them after watching them in tanks and examining a tun of preserved specimens for work but they are still difficult to tell apart except for the big males. Doesn't help that at least in Ohio the by the book feature of a differing number of anal rays is not very reliable which is why I have had to come up with my own characters to use to separate these two. Besides I don't want to mess with counting anal rays if I want them to be alive after examination!

[Chasmodes]

This is how whitetails do it!

 

 

Michael, if the rocks in my local river resemble your video, your video might be the inspiration for my stream tank!  I really love that video!