looking for a place to collect grass or redfin pickerel. Also looking for stone cats. Othr areas of northern il will also work buut will have less opportunities to get there. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Des Plaines Watershed
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Drx
, Apr 20 2015 12:18 AM
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rc6750
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:46 PM
http://fishmap.org/s...n-Pickerel.html
This is the link for the Redfin pickerel. Zoom into the Des Plaines watershed to see red dot collection points. Grass pickerel does not seem to be present in this watershed. Let me know if his help.
This is the link for the Redfin pickerel. Zoom into the Des Plaines watershed to see red dot collection points. Grass pickerel does not seem to be present in this watershed. Let me know if his help.
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strat guy
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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:02 PM
From what I hear, they're pretty prevalent in the Kankakee, especially the backwater streams.
120 low tech native planted - Blackstriped Topminnow, Central Stoneroller, Fathead minnow, Golden Shiner, Black chin shiner, Carmine Shiner, Emerald Shiner, Sand Shiner, Spotfin Shiner, Orangethroat darter, Johnny Darter, and Banded Darter.
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smbass
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Posted 28 April 2015 - 09:44 AM
Yeah no Redfins (Esox americanus americanus) in the upper Mississippi so your just dealing with a difference in level of ID. Often subspecies are lumped together and Redfin would be the proper name if your not IDing to subspecies (just calling them all Esox americanus and nothing further) because they are the "Primary" species for lack of knowing exactly what to call it (someone who knows the proper term can correct me). So if you go as far as subspecies Esox americanus vermiculatus they are all Grass Pickerel in your area. I deal with this all the time with our state EPA because they do not ID to subspecies so they call them all Redfins and we have no Redfins in Ohio so it drives me nuts.
Brian J. Zimmerman
Gambier, Ohio - Kokosing River Drainage
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BenCantrell
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Posted 28 April 2015 - 11:03 AM
Yeah no Redfins (Esox americanus americanus) in the upper Mississippi so your just dealing with a difference in level of ID. Often subspecies are lumped together and Redfin would be the proper name if your not IDing to subspecies (just calling them all Esox americanus and nothing further) because they are the "Primary" species for lack of knowing exactly what to call it (someone who knows the proper term can correct me). So if you go as far as subspecies Esox americanus vermiculatus they are all Grass Pickerel in your area. I deal with this all the time with our state EPA because they do not ID to subspecies so they call them all Redfins and we have no Redfins in Ohio so it drives me nuts.
We really ought to just use one blanket common name when we're not concerned with the subspecies. American pickerel works.
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strat guy
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Posted 30 April 2015 - 07:38 PM
Once again, try the Kankakee. Its not too far away, down towards Wilmington. From what I've heard, there's an abundance of them in shallow weeds. I myself would love to have one at some point in the distant future.
120 low tech native planted - Blackstriped Topminnow, Central Stoneroller, Fathead minnow, Golden Shiner, Black chin shiner, Carmine Shiner, Emerald Shiner, Sand Shiner, Spotfin Shiner, Orangethroat darter, Johnny Darter, and Banded Darter.
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Matt DeLaVega
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 09:00 PM
In some places, you can't keep game fish that haven't been caught on a rod and line. May want to look into that.
This is almost universal. So look into it well, as you are not likely to legally collect game fish with a net.
The member formerly known as Skipjack
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predatorkeeper87
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Posted 14 May 2015 - 07:41 AM
I wonder if they did a DNA analysis on them if they would be separated, Redfin Pickerel get over twice as big as Grass Pickerel. To me they look as different as some of the darters recently split.
Isn't that the other way around? I was under the impression grass pickerel get larger, and that redfin were the smallest of the two species.
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