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#1 Sean Phillips

Sean Phillips
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  • Allegheny River Drainage, Southwest PA

Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:09 PM

Was at a BOD meeting tonight for GPASI and one of the other board members said he's clearing out stock and that he has 10-12 White River Springfish that I could have for free if interested. At first I thought of course I'd like a nice rare native pupfish, however looking it up I see they're federally endangered. He said there's two subspecies and he has the one that isn't endangered of the two which is how he came across the group from someone else but I'm seeing conflicting things on the internet about this. Can anyone shed some light on this? The last thing I need is to be illegally keeping a federally endangered species without even knowing it but if the subspecies truly isn't endangered then I'll happily take his group to spawn them.
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage

#2 Mrfipp

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 11:10 PM

Sounds sketchy at best, IMO.

I'd suggest to error on the side of caution if you can't positively identify the fish and clearly define the law. Free illegal fish wind up being far from free.
There's something fishy about this place...

#3 AussiePeter

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Posted 03 June 2015 - 06:25 AM

Some of these springfish have been in captivity for a long-time, thus pre-dating the listing, thus are legal.  How one proves that though is tricky.  Is it up to you to prove it, or does the govt have to prove they were obtained illegally?  I don't think I'd be too worried, there are a few of them around in captivity.

 

Cheers

Peter



#4 Sean Phillips

Sean Phillips
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  • Allegheny River Drainage, Southwest PA

Posted 03 June 2015 - 06:49 AM

Some of these springfish have been in captivity for a long-time, thus pre-dating the listing, thus are legal.  How one proves that though is tricky.  Is it up to you to prove it, or does the govt have to prove they were obtained illegally?  I don't think I'd be too worried, there are a few of them around in captivity.
 
Cheers
Peter


He might have some type of documentation for such a rare fish, I'll ask him. But if they're grandfathered into protection then I'll definitely take his group.
Sean Phillips - Pine Creek Watershed - Allegheny River Drainage



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