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Minnow? Bull Shoals Lake Watershed - Northern Arkansas


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#1 rc6750

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Posted 03 June 2015 - 10:13 AM

Wanted some input on this fish caught in Crooked Creek near Yellville, Arkansas in the Bull Shoals Lake Watershed

 

Is it just a fat Ozark Minnow or Hybopsis amblops or what? Sorry for the poor quality pictures

 

Also caught at this location:

Smallmouth Bass

Ozark Minnow

Northern Studfish

Duskystripe Shiner

Longear Sunfish

 

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Here is what the Ozark Minnow looked like

 

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#2 fundulus

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 09:54 AM

I'd vote for bigeye chub, Hybopsis amblops, with the caudal markings and the purplish tinges to the dorsal coloration.


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#3 gerald

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 04:40 PM

To me it does not look like the amblops I've seen in western NC, based on head & eye shape.  It looks more like a "normal" Notropis shiner.  In fact it looks remarkably similar to a Cape Fear shiner (which it can't be).   I've never seen nubilis live, but that one seems likely.  What other Notropis are possible in that watershed ?


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#4 rc6750

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 04:51 PM

To me it does not look like the amblops I've seen in western NC, based on head & eye shape.  It looks more like a "normal" Notropis shiner.  In fact it looks remarkably similar to a Cape Fear shiner (which it can't be).   I've never seen nubilis live, but that one seems likely.  What other Notropis are possible in that watershed ?

 

Notropis boops

Notropis percobromus

Notropis nubilus

Notropis ozarcanus

Notropis telescopus

Notropis greenei

 

Yeah - could be nubilis but it just looked so different from the other nubilis I caught.



#5 gerald

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 12:55 PM

N. boops looks pretty close too, but I'm just comparing photos -- have no first hand experience with Ozark area minnows.  When the rest of the gang gets back from OK they should have plenty of fresh experience with that whole suite of species. 


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#6 Kanus

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 09:57 AM

It doesn't look right for amblops to me either. I don't know a whole lot about fishes of that area but my gut tells me this is just an extremely gravid ozark minnow.


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#7 riverrat09

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 11:33 AM

That specimen is a Notropis boops, Bigeye Shiner



#8 rc6750

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 11:46 AM

I actually just heard from another source that they believe it is Bigeye Shiner as well. Thanks everybody.



#9 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 03:09 PM

I see enough of that species to feel pretty confident that it is boops as well.


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#10 gerald

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 04:34 PM

You can name her Betty.


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