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[loopsnj64]

I know i recently made a similar topic about pumpkinseed tank mates, but i feel this is a little too specific/different for that topic

 

I currently have a 30 gallon tank with a lone 4-5 inch male pumpkinseed, would there be any problems with keeping fish found in the pine barrens? (black-banded sunnies, pirate perch etc.), i know i could use plastic plants (for the comfort of all the fishes, p-seed uproots live ones), would there be any problems? my Pumpkinseed seems rather mild mannered towards small fish (he shares the tank with a couple 3 inch golden shiners)

[gerald]

He may not find the shiners too interesting, but introducing other sunfish is MUCH more likely to raise his territorial hackles.  I think he will intimidate and Enneacanthus sunfish and they will be stressed being in close confinement with any Lepomis.  The pirate perch might work if the p-seed doesnt perceive it as a territorial threat, and if you can get enough food into it - try feeding at night when p-seed is snoozing.

[Betta132]

The tiny black-bandeds will be terrified of him. I'd advise keeping something else. 

Pirate perch aren't too similar, so one of those might work. 

[loopsnj64]

Could i keep Blackbanded sunnies in a group in a (heavily planted) 10 gallon with small tank mates?

[gerald]

Probably yes, but watch out to make sure they're all eating well and nobody is getting bullied too much.   Be ready to intervene if any of the fish are staying hidden, having trouble competing with the rest of the group.  A 30 gal would be a safer bet.

[Jconte]

I am fairly certain that it is illegal to collect or possess Blackbanded, Bluespotted and Banded sunfish in New Jersey.

[loopsnj64]

As far as I know, that is not true (may have been at one one point, like when enneacanthus species were threatened, which they no longer are in NJ), NJ really only has 2 protected fish, both of which are endangered saltwater species

 

Update: I checked, I never knew that that was the case, now what?...  

 

...At least this doesn't keep from collecting pirate perch

Edited by loopsnj64, 18 June 2015 - 06:32 AM.

[loopsnj64]

As far as I know, that is not true (may have been at one one point, like when enneacanthus species were threatened, which they no longer are in NJ), NJ really only has 2 protected fish, both of which are endangered saltwater species

 

Update: I checked, I never knew that that was the case, now what?...  

 

...At least this doesn't keep from collecting pirate perch

 

That ban of collecting blackbanded sunfish is no longer in effect, evidenced heavily by this

http://forum.nanfa.o...090713/?hl=pine

[Jconte]

Please see Title 7, chapter 25, paragraph 6.13(u) of the NJ Administrative Code (i.e., the legal documentation of regulations for the state of NJ):

 

(u) Mud sunfish, blackbanded sunfish, bluespotted sunfish, and banded sunfish may not be taken or possessed at any time.

 

I hate to burst your bubble, but I, too, intended to collect these fishes in my home state of NJ. Regardless of what was posted on this forum, collection of enneacanthus is not permitted in New Jersey.

[keepnatives]

 

That ban of collecting blackbanded sunfish is no longer in effect, evidenced heavily by this

http://forum.nanfa.o...090713/?hl=pine

We were covered by a special permit.

[loopsnj64]

Scientific collecting permit?, or something else?

[keepnatives]

I don't recall Bob or Ray organized it all.