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[Itsnotme1988]

Collected both of these in a clear sand bottom creek in NC today. Pretty confident the jumprock is a brassy jumprock but the shiners I'm not sure. Pretty sure they are both the same species and are Notropis. I'm thinking either hudsonius or amoenus.

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[Itsnotme1988]

Don't know why the first picture is upside down....doh!

[UncleWillie]

NC is a big state, and a watershed will help narrow down your fish.  The last fish is a Nocomis.  If it was around here, I'd say bluehead, but not knowing where you are, it could be bluehead, river, or bull chub.  Your first fish does have a large eye, but lacks the spottail and somewhat subterminal mouth that N. hudsonius has.  That snout is relatively pointed.  I was thinking more like N. amoenus?  Drainage will help for sure.

[gerald]

1) maybe satinfin shiner ?  cant see enough detail.

2) amoenus (comely shiner) looks like good guess.

3) bluehead or bull chub.

[Kanus]

I think I may have posted on these on your facebook post, but I'm not sure.

 

Upside down fish looks to me like either a juvenile White shiner or a satinfin shiner, but it's tough to tell without being able to see the shape of the scales.

 

Your second fish I'm pretty sure is a comely shiner.

 

Your chub, to me has the appearance color-wise of a bull chub, but in tannin stained water, all bets are off (water looks pretty yellow). The easiest way to tell them apart when you have blueheads vs. "other" is to look at the breast between the origins of the pectoral fins in bright light. Bull/River chubs will have a naked breast with no scales. Blueheads have scales, albeit tiny ones, that will give the breast a slightly textured/flecked appearance in sunlight.

[Michael Wolfe]

I know y'all are way better at this than me... and there is regional variation in Bluehead chubs... but in the pic above the face just looks wrong to me.  Look at the name... no not bluehead... Nocomis leptocephalus... translation... Nocomis Shorthead... this ones nose is too long... at least too long to be the N. leptocephalus that I am used to seeing... if I had to bet a cup of coffee, I would bet it is not a bluehead, but whatever is the other Nocomis in the range.