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#1 FishyJackson

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 09:39 PM

A Sea Bass spit this up on a south shore Long Island dock.  Can anyone tell what this is?  Thanks guys

 

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#2 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 10:03 PM

Wow, that is quite the challenge. At least the photo is not blurry! :blink:


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#3 Betta132

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 12:04 PM

It looks like some sort of hawkfish to me. Do you have them in the area?



#4 Chasmodes

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 12:46 PM

Wow, that is quite the challenge. At least the photo is not blurry! :blink:

 

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#5 littlen

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 10:04 PM

I like the sound of it being a (Redspotted) hawkfish, too.
Pleases me to hear that a native ate a native. Better than a Lionfish regurge....
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#6 Chasmodes

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 04:38 PM

In my humble opinion, I don't think that hawkfish have ocular spines, so I doubt it's a hawkfish.  

 

Fish with spiny skulls scream Scorpaenidae (Scorpionfish and Rockfishes) to me.  The decomposition makes it difficult to tell what family it's in much less a genus.  

 

From this excerpt from a key to the fishes of Hawaii, both hawkfish and scorpionfish traits follow the key until you get here:

 

 

47a A spiny or at least roughened ridge running across cheek below eye and joining preopercle at nearly a right angle; backwardly projecting spines on top of head behind eyes.�[Fig. 364] Scorpaenidae   

 

b No spiny ridge running horizontally across cheek below eye; no backward projecting spines on top of head behind eyes. 48

 

Link to the key:  http://www.online-ke...t.php?key_no=25

 

It doesn't look like a lionfish to me though because the shape of the mouth and snout don't match at all.  It could be a native, maybe one that was carried North via the Gulf Stream.  There are something like 26 species of scorpionfish listed in FishBase for the Central Western Atlantic.


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#7 Betta132

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:05 AM

I thought it was pink at first, but after a closer look, I've realized that it's only pink because most of its skin has been digested.

Mottled brown and black says "scorpionfish" to me, also. I reconsider my guess. 



#8 FishyJackson

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 06:15 PM

Thanks guys, I knew it was a tough one due to it having been digested.  A knowledgeable fish man suggested it was a baby Spot Croaker, but never know what the Gulf Stream will bring up here



#9 NateTessler13

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:56 PM

...A knowledgeable fish man suggested it was a baby Spot Croaker...

 

Definitely not a spot (Leiostomus xanthurus) or a [Atlantic] croaker (Micropogonias undulatus) - two different species of fish.  Those two species have an inferior mouth (snout sticks out past the mouth), whereas the fish you pictured has a terminal mouth (mouth extends all the way to the end of the head).


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#10 NateTessler13

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:58 PM

^ Haha...unfortunately, I don't know what your mystery fish is...I don't venture into the salt nearly enough.


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