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#1 FishyJackson

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 01:30 PM

Got this in tidal creek, south shore LI

 

I read that the inland silvers are usually in lower salinity waters than the Atlantic Silversides.  They max out around 3-4 inches, and none of the Silversides I saw were bigger than 3 inches or so, so I'm thinking I may have found a school of the Inlands.  Can anyone tell if this is an Inland Silver?  

 

 

 

 



#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 01:32 PM

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#3 FishyJackson

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 01:32 PM

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#4 FishyJackson

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 01:39 PM

Here's pic without flash on

 

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#5 Cu455

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 02:21 PM

Probably an atlantic silverside. Look at the eyes size, pectoral fins location and mouth size/shape. Is it doing well in your tank. They are sensitive fish.

EDIT: Here is a good comparison.

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Edited by Cu455, 27 September 2015 - 03:00 PM.


#6 FishyJackson

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 03:58 PM

Thanks CU455, they are indeed very sensitive, this little guy died in the bucket after pics. It will be salvaged as bait, however.  

 

I have a pic of another Silverside I caught below.  Based on the below it seems possible it's an Inland Silver, but maybe I am misunderstanding what the gut peritoneum is.  

 

 

Pasting the below from page 10 of this link: http://www.otterpoin...cation Tips.pdf

 

The key distinguishing factor is the gut peritoneum

 

The inland silverside – the gut peritoneum extends beyond the origin of the anal fin

 

The Atlantic silverside – the gut peritoneum ends abruptly at the origin of the anal fin

 

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#7 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:56 PM

I think they are all inlands. In your top 2 photos, the anal fin length and number of rays is consistent with inland but definitely not atlantic. And I think you are correct about the gut peritoneum extending beyond the anal fin origin in your last photo.



#8 Cu455

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:30 PM

I just counted the rays. I was only able to count 13. I was wrong. It is not an Atlantic silverside.

Pretty ironic you posted this. My double humped silverside died today.


Edited by Cu455, 27 September 2015 - 06:35 PM.


#9 FishyJackson

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 08:05 PM

RIP Double Hump

 

Thanks for the ID guys.  Solid quick mission this turned out to be, been tough to catch new sea animals around here lately 






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