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#1 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:38 AM

I was wanting to know how many and the ratio of males to females I can keep in a densley anted 10 gallon. I want it to have elodea, combomba Carolinana and hornwort. I can get live foods, it will have driftwood and an open sand spot for nesting. It will be brook sticklebacks

#2 loopsnj64

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 10:17 AM

The plants will be fine, start with a pair or 2 pairs and there offspring (but they will eventually overpopulate the tank)


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#3 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:46 AM

Here's the tank, not planted yet, also is there a native foreground plant?

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#4 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:53 AM

Change brook to three spines sticklebacks

#5 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:34 PM

Not too many people keep sticklebacks. Most feel like they are the devil's spawn, so I don't think there really is a ton of info here on their captive care. Try the search function you may find more info than I think.

 

I think a densely planted aquarium, and just a trio or so is a good plan. Hornwort is so simple, that I would use that as your primary plant, but that is simply an opinion.


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#6 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:00 PM

I want it to look like this http://www.practical...nt.php?sid=3032

#7 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:11 PM

You can do that! Just keep it a one species tank. The people that hate them have tried mixing them with other species.  They are notorious fin nippers and rather territorial.


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#8 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:37 PM

so them with snails is that okay? and maybe ghost shrimp for live enrichment



#9 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:38 PM

plants are combomba, hornwort, willow moss, hairgrass and duckweed



#10 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:38 PM

with a top fin 20 internal filter and spray bar attachment



#11 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:10 PM

I would just use a sponge filter. No need for more. Also if you hope for reproduction, you would want a decent size sponge on the filter intake anyway. Don't think the ghost shrimp will buy you much. Many much better live food sources for sticklebacks. Ghost shrimp seem too big. Maybe their pelagic larvae would be snapped up, but I think even brine shrimp would be better.


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#12 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:46 PM

But would the sponge filter tanks up room and look bad?

#13 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 08:49 PM

Yeah, love them or hide them.


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#14 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:19 PM

I was thinking these plants myrophyllum sp., Eurasian water milfoil, native guppy grass sp, foxtail, hornwort, native hair grass sp., native sagiteria sp. and willow moss

#15 fundulus

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 08:10 AM

Three-spines are tough and easy to keep, there's over a hundred years' worth of literature on them especially from Europe. They're fine with open water. But yeah, they're less than an ideal community species.
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#16 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 08:26 AM

Okay, so I'll just do 1 pair of three spines. With those plants, I'm doing a planning today. I'll post the plan picture, is there any U.S. Native aquatic moss that's not willow moss

#17 gerald

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 09:28 AM

But would the sponge filter tanks up room and look bad?

NO !!!  sponge filters are beautiful (repeat that 20 times each day).

 

There are native Myriophyllum spp such as M. pinnatum and others - you dont need to settle for the Eurasian one.

Fissidens is another native aquatic moss besides Fontinalis.


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#18 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 03:38 PM

Okay, here's the key for guide
1.myrophyllum sp.
2.northern water milfoil
3.najas sp.
4.native sag sp.
5. Foxtail sp.
6.hornwort
7.hairgrass sp.
8. Fissiden sp.

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#19 gerald

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 04:53 PM

Watermilfoil and Foxtail are both common names for Myriophyllum.  Assuming the plants survive, they will GROW and not stay in the space you have assigned to them.  Planning an aquascape is fun, and this level of detail is appropriate if you're entering a weekend aquascape competition to be judged soon after set-up, but it's a bit impractical for a home aquarium intended for long-term maintenance.  With the sprawling plant species you have chosen (Myrio, Najas, Hornwort), it'll quickly become a tangled mass of everything.  The fish will love it, but dont be dissapointed if it doesn't match your "vision" a few months from now.


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#20 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 05:02 PM

Isn't watermilfoil and foxtail differ t species, and I don't care if it's a tangle, it's for the fish and I want it to look natural. That's also why I have these plants so the broken off pieces can be used for the males stickle backs nest




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