Alabama photos
#1 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:51 AM
Ichthyomyzon castaneus Chestnut Lamprey
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Lepisosteus oculatus Spotted Gar
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Luxilus chrysocephalus Striped Shiner
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Nocomis leptocephalus Bluehead Chub
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Cyprinella gibbsi Tallapoosa Shiner
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Notropis baileyi Rough Shiner
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Notropis atherinoides Emerald Shiner
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Pteronotropis euryzonus Broadstripe Shiner
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Lythrurus bellus Pretty Shiner
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Macrhybopsis storeriana Silver Chub
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Notropis ammophilus Orangefin Shiner
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Notropis chrosomus Rainbow Shiner
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Phenacobius catostomus Riffle Minnow
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Pimephales vigilax Bullhead Minnow
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Semotilus thoreauianus Dixie Chub
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Notropis leuciodus Tennessee Shiner
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Semotilus thoreauianus Dixie Chub
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Hypentelium etowanum Alabama Hog Sucker
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Moxostoma poecilurum Blacktail Redhorse
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Erimyzon oblongus Creek Chubsucker
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Fundulus chryostus Golden Topminnow
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Fundulus catenatus Northern Studfish
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Cottus carolinae Banded Sculpin
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Lepomis miniatus Redspotted Sunfish
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Lepomis miniatus x L. punctatus
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Etheostoma tallapoosae Tallapoosa Darter (female)
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Percina palmaris Bronze Darter (male)
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Percina palmaris Bronze Darter (female)
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Etheostoma rufilineatum Redline Darter (male)
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Etheostoma artesiae Redspot Darter (male)
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Etheostoma jordani Greenbreast Darter (female)
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Etheostoma stigmaeum Speckled Darter (male)
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Etheostoma parvipinne Goldstripe Darter
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Etheostoma chuckwachattae Lipstick Darter
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Percina kathae Mobile Logperch
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Percina cf. macrocephala Muscadine Bridled Darter
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Percina caprodes Logperch
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Etheostoma blennius Blenny Darter
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Etheostoma jessiae Blueside Darter
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Etheostoma ramseyi Alabama Darter
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Etheostoma duryi Blackside Snubnose Darter
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Etheostoma flabellare Fantail Darter
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#2 Guest_Kanus_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 12:19 PM
#3 Guest_Brooklamprey_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 01:09 PM
Good lookin fish. What kind of lamprey is that?
Southern Brook lamprey Ichthyomyzon gagei
#4 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 01:34 PM
Was the studfish stellifer or bifax?
And who took the pictures? That's the best euryzonus picture I've seen to date.
I'm heading thataway in a week and a half. Hope to get a lot of footage of these guys out IN the stream!
Didja go to Hillabee Creek? I really hoping to get some of those FIRED up bronze darter footage there. Any of the other cyprinella? Or just only a picture of tricolor? The Alabamas should be all bumpy and nice right now.
There any way for you to put the names in for these so people can see what they are? If things are in question, I'd be glad to help ID things. What I don't know, Dr. Neely will. These pictures are gonna make him so jealous he's gonna spit lol.
And if there's time for it, these really should be added to the gallery. These are great photos.
Todd
#5 Guest_daveneely_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 01:53 PM
Dang, that's enough to make me homesick...
Oh, and btw that second pic is a chestnut, not a southern brook lamprey.
Cheers,
Dave
#6 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 02:11 PM
Youse guys got the full gammut, didn't you? That's 'bammy at it's finest.
Was the studfish stellifer or bifax?
And who took the pictures? That's the best euryzonus picture I've seen to date.
I'm heading thataway in a week and a half. Hope to get a lot of footage of these guys out IN the stream!
Didja go to Hillabee Creek? I really hoping to get some of those FIRED up bronze darter footage there. Any of the other cyprinella? Or just only a picture of tricolor? The Alabamas should be all bumpy and nice right now.
There any way for you to put the names in for these so people can see what they are? If things are in question, I'd be glad to help ID things. What I don't know, Dr. Neely will. These pictures are gonna make him so jealous he's gonna spit lol.
And if there's time for it, these really should be added to the gallery. These are great photos.
Todd
The nondescript fundulus is catenatus and the euryzonus posed well.
#7 Guest_dsmith73_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 02:34 PM
Wow, REALLY nice pics. Yeah, y'all were busy. I'm particularly envious of the Percina suttkusi, spent many hours out looking for those guys and have only gotten two... That may be the nicest photo of it I've seen.
Dang, that's enough to make me homesick...
Oh, and btw that second pic is a chestnut, not a southern brook lamprey.
Cheers,
Dave
The logperch pictured is actually P. kathae. If it is in fact suttkusi, it was taken WELL out of it's documented range. The chestnut lamprey has a very spotty distribution across south central AL. THis, along with the approximate characters of the gagei, are why it was tentatively ID'd as gagei.
#8 Guest_smbass_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:14 PM
#9 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:23 PM
The logperch pictured is actually P. kathae. If it is in fact suttkusi, it was taken WELL out of it's documented range. The chestnut lamprey has a very spotty distribution across south central AL. THis, along with the approximate characters of the gagei, are why it was tentatively ID'd as gagei.
I'm not clear exactly where these pictures are from, but it could well be sutkussi that because the species exists surprisingly far north in Alabama, like the Bear Creek system if I remember correctly.
#10 Guest_killier_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:26 PM
have to say I have never heard a gar being captured with a seine but theres first for every thing.I'm not clear exactly where these pictures are from, but it could well be sutkussi that exists surprisingly far north in Alabama.
#11 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:41 PM
I second Todd's suggestion of adding in the names of these (common and scientific) below each pic (once you have them all worked out for sure) because I recognize some but certainly not all of them and I'm sure others would appreciate this too.
We'll get to that. Many of us are still sore from sampling and must add that I was out of town for 7 days...much work to catch up on. It was quite a task just editing photos and posting them. Tags will follow soon.
#12 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:43 PM
have to say I have never heard a gar being captured with a seine but theres first for every thing.
It wouldn't be a first... it takes some doing, and is easier if two seines are being used. It's kind of like catching a torpedo with a seine; think fast!
#13 Guest_Skipjack_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 05:45 PM
Wow, REALLY nice pics. Yeah, y'all were busy. I'm particularly envious of the Percina suttkusi, spent many hours out looking for those guys and have only gotten two... That may be the nicest photo of it I've seen.
Dang, that's enough to make me homesick...
Oh, and btw that second pic is a chestnut, not a southern brook lamprey.
Cheers,
Dave
Dave, I have three of these logperch. If you want to spend some time working on a positive ID, I would happily send one your way. PM me
#14 Guest_Skipjack_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 05:51 PM
#15 Guest_dsmith73_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 05:59 PM
I'm not clear exactly where these pictures are from, but it could well be sutkussi that because the species exists surprisingly far north in Alabama, like the Bear Creek system if I remember correctly.
Just from looking at the Boschung book, P. suttkusi is not found farther north than where the Coosa and Tallapoose split. We found the "kathae" far up in the Tallapoosa system.
#16 Guest_daveneely_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:19 PM
The logperch pictured is actually P. kathae. If it is in fact suttkusi, it was taken WELL out of it's documented range. The chestnut lamprey has a very spotty distribution across south central AL. THis, along with the approximate characters of the gagei, are why it was tentatively ID'd as gagei.
OK, just to make sure we're all on the same page. There's two logperch pics posted; the first is awfully suttkusi-ish (that's an awfully short snout, and the bars aren't expanded at all); the second looks more caprodes-esque (with the first dorsal down, it's hard to tell if there's any orange band, but it doesn't look like it). If the first one is from the Tallapoosa drainage, then yeah, someone should take a closer look at it to verify ID. If you can get it to stay still enough in aquarium to get a LL scale count (or get it off of a high-res version of the original pic), that would likely work.
First lamprey pic looks like it could be Ichthyomyzon gagei (small oral disc), but I. gagei doesn't have big honking teeth and a broad disc like depicted in the 2nd pic...
cheers,
Dave
#17 Guest_Brooklamprey_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:27 PM
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Actually same fish Dave..First pic distorts the disc a lot.First lamprey pic looks like it could be Ichthyomyzon gagei (small oral disc), but I. gagei doesn't have big honking teeth and a broad disc like depicted in the 2nd pic...
Thats the second best way to Catch them... Some of us have made an art of it (Uland)There is nothing quite like a seine full of Toothy ganoid scaled fish though to wreck a seine in a short time though....have to say I have never heard a gar being captured with a seine but theres first for every thing.
#18 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:09 PM
We'll get to that.
I hope that didn't sound unappreciative for time already spent or pushy Uland. That definately wasn't what I wanted to convey, if I did
Todd
#19 Guest_drewish_*
Posted 20 April 2007 - 10:48 AM
Lipstick darter, Etheostoma chuckwachatte
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P.S. The photo tank is not ghetto, just everything else
#20 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:10 PM
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