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Wolfs pond,Staten island,nyc. 6/22/2016


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#1 dsuperman

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:45 PM

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    Wolfs pond staten island nyc just off Raritan bay. I forgot to check salinity,was wondering what is the name of this green brown algae mush covering half this pond. Many sheepshead minnows,atlantic silversides and striped killies in the pond at this time, most all seemed to be juveniles. I collected one stickleback [3 spined?] I noticed a few adult blue claw crabs cruising inside the pond. This pond was freshwater up until about five years ago.



#2 Dustin

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 07:20 AM

That looks like an interesting place.  Fairly certain those are mummichogs, not striped killies, though.  Thanks for the photos.


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#3 Cu455

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 08:35 AM

It is hard to see the algae but gracilaria and ulva and 2 of the more abundant algae in the NY tidal areas. There are tons of different types of algae near you. 



#4 dsuperman

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:04 PM

Thank you both for the IDS. It was interesting when it was freshwater also,being so close to Raritan bay. On the beachside we were catching these large killies with golden undersides and orange tinted fins. That algae is stinky and messy.



#5 Dustin

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:14 PM

Those are indeed striped killifish.  That's a female.  The ones with the vertical bars and lemony fins were the males.  Mummichogs seem to prefer more brackish conditions while stripeds like closer to full salt so it makes sense you were getting mummis from the pond and striped from the beach.


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#6 loopsnj64

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 07:53 PM

Im incredibly interested in this place.... (I have been looking forever for Sticklebacks in NJ)
I couldn't find any information online, could you give some info about location, history, etc. (ESPECIALLY location)

Also, could just anyone collect there or are there specific rules

Anyway, sounds like a great day collecting at a truly bizarre lake

What water conditions and acclimation techniques would you recommend for brackish-collected fishes

Would sheepsheads & sticklebacks make good tankmates, given enough space/hiding places? or would aggression be a major issue


Edited by loopsnj64, 24 June 2016 - 07:55 PM.

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#7 dsuperman

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Posted 25 June 2016 - 10:09 AM

Its on the south shore of staten island, entrance at holten av. and hylan blvd. [ten minutes from the outerbridge crossing].  

 Info on this pond says its been in transition for 1,000 years,hurricane Irene breached the berm about five years ago.

 Before that, it was freshwater for  decades.

 Its part of the NYC Parks dept.  At this time there is no license needed for saltwater fishing in NY.

  I sample the waters there ,take photos then release. I don't keep a  brackish  tank,sorry. 

  That stickleback was the only one i netted that day.



#8 loopsnj64

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Posted 25 June 2016 - 11:23 AM

Its on the south shore of staten island, entrance at holten av. and hylan blvd. [ten minutes from the outerbridge crossing].  

 Info on this pond says its been in transition for 1,000 years,hurricane Irene breached the berm about five years ago.

 Before that, it was freshwater for  decades.

 Its part of the NYC Parks dept.  At this time there is no license needed for saltwater fishing in NY.

  I sample the waters there ,take photos then release. I don't keep a  brackish  tank,sorry. 

  That stickleback was the only one i netted that day.

Thanks


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#9 smilingfrog

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 10:49 AM

 

 Its part of the NYC Parks dept.  At this time there is no license needed for saltwater fishing in NY.

 

That's interesting.  If someone was fishing in brackish water, at what point is it no longer considered saltwater and requires a license?  Is there a minimum salinity, or is it just when mostly freshwater fish are present?



#10 dsuperman

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 03:55 PM

I've never looked into that, probably because i've always had a freshwater license here. There were a couple of years [i think] maybe 5-10 years ago where a saltwater license was needed here in NYS. Some people were buying lifetime licenses,i wondered what happened with that?



#11 gzeiger

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 07:55 PM

Every state I've lived in has very specific delineations listed in the regulations as to which license is required where. Typically this has been staggeringly arbitrary, often a major highway or similar artificial landmark, and usually the legal line of saltwater is far up into quite fresh water (in some cases locally upstream of three small waterfalls).





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