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Help me out with id's for these brackish water fish please guys


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#1 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 04:59 PM

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Caught these guys in the Outer Banks, Carova, NC. Brackish water.


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#2 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:07 PM

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Inland Silversides?
 
Same location, Outer Banks, brackish water.


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#3 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:09 PM

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#4 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:10 PM

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#5 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:11 PM

I caught the above in Little River, NC, brackish water.



#6 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:11 PM

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#7 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:12 PM

I caught these in Manteo, NC, Outer Banks. They were swimming in reeds in shallow water along with Mummichogs.



#8 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:13 PM

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#9 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:14 PM

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#10 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:14 PM

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#11 sbtgrfan

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 08:49 PM

Hickory shad, silversides, needlefish, and then I'm not completely sure. That'd be my guess.
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#12 taldridge0321

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 09:33 PM

Hickory shad, silversides, needlefish, and then I'm not completely sure. That'd be my guess.

Inland Silversides or Atlantic? Also, the last pictures above here, couldn't they be Bay Anchovies perhaps?



#13 zooxanthellae

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:16 AM

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These are mullet. Either striped or white, but I would need a macro shot, with extended dorsal fin, to tell you for sure. 



#14 zooxanthellae

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 09:29 AM

Inland Silversides or Atlantic? Also, the last pictures above here, couldn't they be Bay Anchovies perhaps?

Not sure if this helps, but one of the quickest methods to differentiate between atlantic and inland is the number of rays in the anal fin. I can't tell from your picture, but inland silversides usually have less than 20 rays, while atlantic silversides have more. This is all from memory, so you will have to google that for exact counts. 

 

With that said, at first glance, your first silverside looks to me like an inland, while the others look like atlantic silversides. 

Your needlefish could either be an atlantic needlefish or possibly a houndfish, I've caught both in the Manteo area, but the atlantic needles are far more common. There are also a few less common needlefishes that you could encounter, but I would need a clearer shot to say for sure. 



#15 taldridge0321

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 09:42 AM

Not sure if this helps, but one of the quickest methods to differentiate between atlantic and inland is the number of rays in the anal fin. I can't tell from your picture, but inland silversides usually have less than 20 rays, while atlantic silversides have more. This is all from memory, so you will have to google that for exact counts. 

 

With that said, at first glance, your first silverside looks to me like an inland, while the others look like atlantic silversides. 

Your needlefish could either be an atlantic needlefish or possibly a houndfish, I've caught both in the Manteo area, but the atlantic needles are far more common. There are also a few less common needlefishes that you could encounter, but I would need a clearer shot to say for sure. 

Thanks so much. Did you get a chance to check out the other fish? The group above I'm holding in my hand and the first page which is probably a Hickory Shad and some other fish. If you don't mind let me know what you think.

 

Tim



#16 zooxanthellae

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 10:12 AM

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I'd like to see a closer shot of this guy, but the rest of them look like Atlantic menhaden, Brevoortia tyrannus. 



#17 sbtgrfan

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 11:25 AM

I always forget about menhaden...

I guess hickory shad are also usually more elongated. 


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#18 Moontanman

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 11:30 AM

Inland silversides are beautiful aquarium fishes... 


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#19 fritz

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 11:35 AM

rough silversides are also present. they have black spots peppered along the dorsum (back)



#20 taldridge0321

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 03:33 PM

I'd like to see a closer shot of this guy, but the rest of them look like Atlantic menhaden, Brevoortia tyrannus. 

So from what you see what do you think this is?






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