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[DSmith]

Caught with a worm and hook in a creek in Southern Ontario. 

http://imgur.com/a/AQ8vE

 

Or if anyone has another idea I would love to hear it.

 

thanks!

 

[Josh Blaylock]

 

Here's the fish in question.

[Josh Blaylock]

Bluntnose Minnow?  

[Matt DeLaVega]

Or could it be P. vigilax. It is Pimephales. I think it is a bluntnose too but it may be a bullhead minnow if you have them.

[DSmith]

thanks for your input!  I am new to IDing the smaller fish, so I am learning. 

 

I pulled this little one out of the same hole, so is this looking like a blunt nose minnow as well?

 

Edited by DSmith, 29 July 2016 - 05:36 PM.

[Matt DeLaVega]

More like a creek chub.

[DSmith]

thanks so much!

 

The first fish  looks so close to a mimic shiner id page I found (http://www.dan-johns...imic_shiner.html), that's why I wondered if it was a mimic.

[gerald]

Pimephales vs Notropis volucellus:  Pimephales body is more round in cross-section (viewed head-on): body width and height are nearly the same.  Notropis are typically taller than they are wide in cross-section.  Dorsal fin rays: Notropis 1st ray is the longest.  Pimephales have a short 1st ray and longer 2nd ray.  Mouth: Pimephales mouth is smaller and more ventral than Notropis.

 

Creek chub:  Note how scales on front half of body are 1/2 the size of rear body scales.  Nocomis and Notropis scales would be closer to the same size front & rear; only a little bit smaller toward the front.

[DSmith]

thanks so much, I really appreciate it!

[Matt DeLaVega]

Gerald always has good common sense ID keys that don't require the need of a magnifying glass. Brian Z is great that way too.