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#21 taldridge0321

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 03:05 PM

I just assumed this little guy was a Bowfin since it has the spot on the tail.bowfin+maybe+_Large_.JPG



#22 Dustin

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 03:22 PM

Yep, that's a mudminnow.  I don't believe I have ever taken them there before.  Did you get them in the little tributary just upstream from the bridge?


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At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC


#23 taldridge0321

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 03:47 PM

Yep, that's a mudminnow.  I don't believe I have ever taken them there before.  Did you get them in the little tributary just upstream from the bridge?

Yes sir, Caught a bunch of Pirate Perch too, Great spots. Still can't seem to find Dollar Sunfish though or Swampfish.



#24 sbtgrfan

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 04:50 PM

16  -  Eastern mudminnow.  You are not likely to find any bowfin that size this time of year.  You see them that size in February and March..


Dustin is just mad he can't ever find bowfin that small...

But he's also right it's a mudminnow haha
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#25 Dustin

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Posted 30 September 2016 - 07:15 AM

Stephen is right.  One day...

 

You have to be in the coastal plain to get dollars, although they do occur well up into the piedmont.  I have gobs of sites where dollars are the most common sunfish there.  You rarely catch a lot of swampfish.  I have one site where I can consistently get them but most times I am just surprised to see one or two pop up.  They are found up in the leaf litter and are a pain to look for since you spend so much time digging through leaves and muck.


Dustin Smith
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC


#26 gerald

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Posted 30 September 2016 - 04:14 PM

So Dustin is the SC "Piedmont Shiner"  NOT the same critter as the one we've been calling "Broad River Greenhead" in NC?   Also, could Tim's photo #1 be a Redlip Shiner (yes, out of normal range, but they seem to disperse widely and fast via bait bucket).  I've seen red fins on young Greenheads in NC (both Catawba and Broad R forms) but not as much red as that one shows.  Agreed on Flat Bullhead - note how the maxillary barbel (corner of mouth) is pale on one side and dark on the other. Snail Bullhead barbel doesn't have that color contrast.


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#27 Dustin

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:22 AM

Yes, the piedmont shiner and Broad River Greenhead are probably the same.  This stream flows into the Broad just below Lake Monticello.  These shiners can have intense yellow to red fins in there.  I have seen some populations of yellowfins that have these very red fins as well.  I don't think that is a redlip.  


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At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC




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