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#1 Cu455

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 03:40 PM

I got these at the store so I am unsure of the collection location or if they are even wild caught.

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#2 Dustin

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 04:32 PM

Look like Fundulus seminolis.

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#3 Cu455

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 09:26 PM

Thanks. I will try and get better pictures when I get home. Is the Killie fish you listed sold and shipped as baitfish? It seems like they are found in Florida but I bought my fish in NY?


When I did an image search for the killifish most of the pictures are from this site. I thought that was cool.


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Edited by Cu455, 04 December 2016 - 09:45 PM.


#4 gerald

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 11:03 PM

I suppose bait shops in NY might buy killies from FL when they can't get local mummichogs, the usual coastal yankee baitfish.


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#5 Cu455

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:49 PM

More pictures. I don't think they are those killis. 

 

 

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#6 Dustin

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 09:19 PM

These are golden shiners. These don't appear to be the same fish as the first ones.

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Lexington, SC


#7 gerald

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:03 AM

Shiners and other minnows have the dorsal fin about at the middle of the body, noticeably farther forward than the anal fin.  Most killifish (at least our N. Amer species) have the dorsal fin farther back, right above the anal fin.  Also, minnows have a forked tail and killies have a rounded or squared-off tail. 


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#8 Cu455

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 06:57 PM

Thanks. The first picture does look like a different fish but it isn't, unless I got a random. They have been in a 5 gallon bucket with an airstone for the last couple of days. Today I set a tank up for them.

I am going to add them to my larger tank with bullheads and eels when they get bigger.

Edited by Cu455, 08 December 2016 - 07:02 PM.


#9 Dustin

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 08:05 PM

There is no doubt that they are different fish. The top fish is a fundulus killifish of some sort, either a skinny mummichog or Seminole killie. The bottom fish is a golden shiner.

Dustin Smith
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Lexington, SC


#10 smbass

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 08:50 PM

Top fish could have been an eastern banded killifish too, those show up in bait sometimes.


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#11 ChrosomusEnthusiast

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:43 PM

Those look much more like eastern banded killifish...especially the third picture of the three killi pics.


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