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#1 itsme

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:10 PM

I'm looking for sites for Belonesox in Florida.  If you have sites for this species or leads on others who do, please share:  Mark Binkley 614-723-9082 jonah@jonahsaquarium.com  Thank you!



#2 lilyea

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:25 AM

Mark, I strongly recommend getting the Florida Collecting Guide if you don't already have a copy. Although I don't have specific sites, my experience with them was in the greater Naples area. They should be able to be found throughout South Florida.

#3 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:48 AM

Thanks!  I've got the 2009, 3rd edition.  Is there a later edition that has more Belonesox sites?  I know that's a very specific question, but just throwing it out there.  Naples, huh?  Well that's a place to start!  Anyone have specific sites in Naples?  Thanks!

 

Mark



#4 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:58 AM

OK, Doug Dame let me know there is one site in the latest Florida Collecting Guide for Belonesox.  It's south of Homestead FL.  Anyone know about specific sites in Naples or elsewhere?  Thank you!

 

Mark Binkley

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#5 Doug_Dame

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 02:44 PM

The best way I know to find possible locations for exotic species is the USGS' Non-indigenous Aquatic Species database, found here. You can view a point-map for each species of interest, or browse the individual records. (Useful in assessing whether the fish are likely to still be there ... established, vs extirpated, etc.)

 

For Belonesox:

- 3 records from Hillsborough county

- many records from Collier County, mostly Big Cypress

- many many records from Broward-Dade - Everglades

- some scattered records from Monroe County  - could be SoFla or Keys, I didn't look to see what part/s of Monroe were involved.


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#6 zooxanthellae

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 02:48 PM

OK, Doug Dame let me know there is one site in the latest Florida Collecting Guide for Belonesox.  It's south of Homestead FL.  Anyone know about specific sites in Naples or elsewhere?  Thank you!

 

Mark Binkley

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Click this link: 

And then click on the tab labeled "Collection Location Map" 

I took data from fishnet2, and just through it in a google fusion table. Its dirty, but will work! Come to think of it, I bet this data is on Ryan's fishmap.org as well.  



#7 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 03:47 PM

 

Click this link: 

And then click on the tab labeled "Collection Location Map" 

I took data from fishnet2, and just through it in a google fusion table. Its dirty, but will work! Come to think of it, I bet this data is on Ryan's fishmap.org as well.  

 Awesome!  Perfect!  Thank you!  Will this remain active for a while or do I need to somehow download it today?  Is there an easy way to download?  I've never used this feature on Google.

 

Mark



#8 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 03:50 PM

The best way I know to find possible locations for exotic species is the USGS' Non-indigenous Aquatic Species database, found here. You can view a point-map for each species of interest, or browse the individual records. (Useful in assessing whether the fish are likely to still be there ... established, vs extirpated, etc.)

 

For Belonesox:

- 3 records from Hillsborough county

- many records from Collier County, mostly Big Cypress

- many many records from Broward-Dade - Everglades

- some scattered records from Monroe County  - could be SoFla or Keys, I didn't look to see what part/s of Monroe were involved.

 

Thanks, Doug, I didn't think of that.  Good idea!

 

Mark



#9 zooxanthellae

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:03 PM

 Awesome!  Perfect!  Thank you!  Will this remain active for a while or do I need to somehow download it today?  Is there an easy way to download?  I've never used this feature on Google.

 

Mark

 

Google fusion tables are a part of their Drive Suite, and all I did was import the csv, that www.fishnet2.net creates after a search, to drive, and then shared the link with you. Google FT will automatically detect that the location information in the dataset are gps coordinates, and map it for you. I will leave that link active for at least a year, but I can't guarantee much more than that, so if you need it long term, I can walk you through setting it up on your own account. Just let me know, and good luck! 



#10 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

 

Google fusion tables are a part of their Drive Suite, and all I did was import the csv, that www.fishnet2.net creates after a search, to drive, and then shared the link with you. Google FT will automatically detect that the location information in the dataset are gps coordinates, and map it for you. I will leave that link active for at least a year, but I can't guarantee much more than that, so if you need it long term, I can walk you through setting it up on your own account. Just let me know, and good luck! 

 

Great!  Thank you!  Can you send me the CSV file if you still have it:  jonah@jonahsaquarium.com  Or tell me the steps to acquire the data from www.fishnet2.net  Thank you very much!

 

Mark



#11 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:05 PM

Going to Florida soon Mark? Family trip or just fish? Need a passenger and net hand?


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#12 itsme

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 07:05 PM

Going to Florida soon Mark? Family trip or just fish? Need a passenger and net hand?

 

Hey, Matt, I'll message you.



#13 dmarkley

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:36 AM

OK, Doug Dame let me know there is one site in the latest Florida Collecting Guide for Belonesox.  It's south of Homestead FL.  Anyone know about specific sites in Naples or elsewhere?  Thank you!

 

Mark Binkley

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I was in Naples back in January.  Go to: Big Bend Cypress Boardwalk, 27020 Tamiami Trail E, Naples, FL 34114.  There is a small stream flowing along to pathway near the entrance that has them swimming everywhere.


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#14 itsme

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:43 AM

 

I was in Naples back in January.  Go to: Big Bend Cypress Boardwalk, 27020 Tamiami Trail E, Naples, FL 34114.  There is a small stream flowing along to pathway near the entrance that has them swimming everywhere.

 

Awesome!  Thank you!

 

Mark



#15 itsme

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 12:04 PM

 

I was in Naples back in January.  Go to: Big Bend Cypress Boardwalk, 27020 Tamiami Trail E, Naples, FL 34114.  There is a small stream flowing along to pathway near the entrance that has them swimming everywhere.

 

Ok, so I'm looking at the Google Satellite view.  Is the stream and path north of the Tamiami trail or south of it?  If it's to the north, is it the apparent stream that runs along the path/road that goes northwest past the buildings?

 

Mark

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#16 rc6750

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:05 AM

 

Click this link: 

And then click on the tab labeled "Collection Location Map" 

I took data from fishnet2, and just through it in a google fusion table. Its dirty, but will work! Come to think of it, I bet this data is on Ryan's fishmap.org as well.  

 

Confirmed it is !



#17 dmarkley

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:36 AM

 

Ok, so I'm looking at the Google Satellite view.  Is the stream and path north of the Tamiami trail or south of it?  If it's to the north, is it the apparent stream that runs along the path/road that goes northwest past the buildings?

 

Mark

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Yes, on the north side.


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#18 itsme

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:37 AM

Awesome!  Thanks!  Will a dipnet work?  Do I need a long handle?



#19 Dustin

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:20 AM

I dipnetted them in Honduras and they were really no more difficult to collect that Gambusia.  Once you are in them, they are abundant.  Granted, this may be different outside of their native habitat.


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#20 itsme

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:57 AM

I like the sound of that!



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