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#1 4WheelVFR

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 10:44 PM

Hi all, I'm currently prepping my basement tank for a community consisting of mainly L megalotis along with a few other of the larger Lepomis sp.  The tank is 8'x4'x4' so I have decent room to work with.  I've kept largemouth, spotted, and smallmouth bass before but I don't think they'd be appropriate for what I want to keep.  Do Redeye bass stay small enough where larger lepomis sp will be safe?  Does anyone have any experience with them concerning their aggression towards sunfish?  Also, do they like to be kept with other bass, or are they pretty solitary?  I've enjoyed keeping bass in the past, but a lot of effort will be going into my stock list, so I'm kind of on the fence about these.



#2 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:53 AM

I've had one for nearly 2 years.  So far, it has killed everything I've put in with him, including 3 fish bigger than him, Hogsucker, Shortnose Gar, and a Redbreast Sunfish.  I suppose if you start it off as a small fish, you may have better luck with it adapting to the other fish.  My fish was a fairly decent size when I caught him.

 

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#3 4WheelVFR

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:51 AM

I wonder if having a large tank will defuse those aggression issues?  With Central and South American cichlids, I've kept some combos that you would not think possible under normal circumstances or in smaller tanks.  The only times I've had issues were with a pair of Amphilophus trimaculatus that would claim 1/3 of the tank while breeding and also had a trio of 9-10" Fossorochromis rostratus (Africans) that would occasionally get pissy with everyone.

I'd like to keep larger dither fish like golden shiners, creek chub, or striped shiners as well, so that may count the coosae out right there.  Just looking for some input before I try to hunt some down, as I've never kept these guys before.



#4 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:26 AM

I feel like if you start with a smaller coosa, you may do better.  I tried removing the fish and rearranging the tank, that didn't help.  If you had, say a 150, perhaps you may do better with aggression.   I thought the coosa would for sure leave the Gar alone, however it would grab it's tail and drag it around the tank.  Also, I may just have a super aggressive one.

 

What size are you planning on keeping it in?  


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#5 4WheelVFR

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:34 AM

The tank is 8x4x4 which comes out to just under 1000 gallons.



#6 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 12:46 PM

That will probably change the dynamic quite a bit. I would give it a shot.


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#7 mattknepley

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:11 PM

Heck, you probably keep Fritz and Josh B in something that size and not have snarkiness! :)
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#8 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

That will probably change the dynamic quite a bit. I would give it a shot.

 

I agree, with a tank that size, I'd try it for sure. 

 

 

Heck, you probably keep Fritz and Josh B in something that size and not have snarkiness! :)

 

IDK, we have the Great Commonwealth of Kentucky to Crapolina Coast now and it's not enough.


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#9 centrarchid

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:28 PM

When I keep black bass in tanks, you go either one or many.  Just two or three sets stage for losses as indicated above.   Sustained mixed-species arrangements will behave similarly. Put more into filtration to compensate for water quality issues.


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#10 4WheelVFR

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:03 PM

When I keep black bass in tanks, you go either one or many.  Just two or three sets stage for losses as indicated above.   Sustained mixed-species arrangements will behave similarly. Put more into filtration to compensate for water quality issues.

Yes, I was thinking just this.  In the past, due to tank size, I've only kept one at a time but this tank gives me a little more space.  I'll have to see what my space looks like with all the Lepomis I'm planning on keeping.



#11 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 05:33 AM

Can we see a photo of this huge tank?

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#12 4WheelVFR

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:46 AM

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#13 4WheelVFR

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:51 AM

This is how I had it arranged previously.  I broke it down this spring to take out a lot of the gravel and put in a mostly sand substrate.  It's a lot easier to keep it clean with sand and fish don't seem to care either way.  Moving those large rocks is a hassle.  Some of them weigh 50lbs or more and one person has to get in the tank while another hands them the rocks for placement.  Aquascaping requires you to get in it.  

Inhabitants in my last setup were 3 Cichla kelberi, Amphilophus trimaculatus, amphilophus sagittae, Maskoheros argentea, Vieja synspilus, Crenicichla cincta, a group of Heros liberifer, a group of mixed silver dollars that were the size of small plates and all of which were unknown species, a bunch of plecos, and a trio of wild caught oscars.  I'm missing some I think, but that's about it.  There were some other very cool and expensive fish that the Pike cichlid ate.  He grew even faster than any Cichla I've ever had, which is impressive.  



#14 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:13 PM

Dang, that's large.


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