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#1 JasonL

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:12 PM

Dipnetted the weedy shoreline of a cypress filled swamp this morning looking for flier without success but did find a mix of sunfish including bluegill, orangespotted, longear and green sunfish. Found some of these guys too that were pretty small. Fairly sure some of these are warmouth but not sure about the last couple of these fish. Thoughts?

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#2 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:32 PM

My warmouth experience is limited, but they all look like warmouth to me.

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#3 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 06:43 PM

Sandwich agrees with Matt on the first three.

Something about the fourth one looks a little like a stumpknocker to me

5 is too pail for me to understand for sure

last one looks more bluegill mutt to me... very pointed nose

 

then again, I am not very good at this game... and sandwich will not help me except for the first three.


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#4 centrarchid

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM

First three Warmouth and last two Redear.  Fourth fish does not look Redspotted to me.


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#5 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:07 PM

I was thinking 4 as L. punctatus (spotted or black spotted or whatever). That's what they mostly mean here on GA when they say "stumpknocker." I think I can almost see the blue under his eye.
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#6 centrarchid

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:19 PM

I do not like the spots or faint barring.


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#7 JasonL

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:01 PM

I was hoping the 4th might have some Redspotted in it. Even though I wasn't looking for them per se they are in this location but in low numbers and are threatened in Kentucky. ? Maybe a hybrid of some sort.

Michael where I live warmouth are called stump knockers or goggle eye by the locals. But if I mention warmouth to them they have no idea what I'm talking about.

#8 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:01 PM

OK, I see that now... 


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#9 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:04 PM

Michael where I live warmouth are called stump knockers or goggle eye by the locals. But if I mention warmouth to them they have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

And this is why common names are a trap... but they are still fun... down here they are almost consistent with:

stumpknocker = spotted (we dont really have red spotted)

shellcracker = red ear

goggle eye = warmouth

 

but warmouth get called all sorts of things, and all of them as small as you have there might just get called "brim"


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#10 JasonL

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:32 PM

Yeah up here in Kentucky "shellcracker" is a pretty common term for redear too. Also local folks like to call green sunfish "rock bass". Most of them have never heard of "green sunfish" or know what you are talking about if you bring it up.




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