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#1 JasonL

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:35 PM

Caught this guy earlier today in a small muddy creek not far from the Ohio River in far western KY. Found him in some woody debris along with some orangespots and warmouth. Initially thought it might be a crappie but on second look hoping it might be a flier.

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Thoughts appreciated.

#2 littlen

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 05:33 PM

10-4! That eye spot on the back of the dorsal is the giveaway.
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#3 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 06:06 PM

That's definitely him.  I didnt know you had fliers up that far... I normally associate them with being in South Georgia, not North, so Ididnt even thinnk of them being up that way.


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#4 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 06:31 PM

Michael, they are up into southern Illinois as well. That region around where the Ohio and Mississippi come together has an odd assemblage of species, especially in the swampy lowland areas. Heck Pternotropis hubbsi used to be in southern Illinois.

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#5 JasonL

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 07:18 PM

Michael, they are up into southern Illinois as well. That region around where the Ohio and Mississippi come together has an odd assemblage of species, especially in the swampy lowland areas. Heck Pternotropis hubbsi used to be in southern Illinois.


Indeed. I was in that vicinicity today.

Frankly it is a treasure trove of diversity for native fish enthusiasts. You never know exactly what you may find.

#6 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 09:56 PM

Yeah, odd area. Cottonmouths as well, which is pretty far north, though they are about as far north along the Atlantic coast. Cypress trees too. Just a weird area. Elassoma in Illinois? Who would think?

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#7 centrarchid

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:20 AM

The range into Southern Indiana where we could catch them in out back yard.  Most northerly populations I know of are in the Patoka River drainage.


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#8 JasonL

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 03:41 PM

Yeah, odd area. Cottonmouths as well, which is pretty far north, though they are about as far north along the Atlantic coast. Cypress trees too. Just a weird area. Elassoma in Illinois? Who would think?

Elassoma in western KY too 😎. Found these guys today.

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#9 Dustin

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 09:53 AM

Banded pygmies, Elassoma zonatum.  It's the only one over your way.


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