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#1 MikeB

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:31 AM

Hello, First poster here –

I found out about NANFA from the excellent Smith and Bissette’s paper in American Currents, Spring 2015:

http://www.nanfa.org...-processing.pdf

Using this technique I was finally able to get decent photos of fish in the field and then release them alive – however, even with photos detailed enough to get fin ray counts and other details some of  the cyprinids still have me stumped – can I get some help with IDs?

These fish were caught microfishing– 2993 (3.75 in.), 3018 (2.25 in.), 3124 (4 in.) were caught on 7/29 in the Yellow River near Snellville. 2557 (2.75 in.), 2650 (3 in.), 2660 (3 in.) were taken on 7/9 from Fightingtown Creek near Blue Ridge.

I have been using this site to ID some GA fishes –

http://fishesofgeorg...cies&class=fish

Are there any other good GA refs out there?

Thanks!!

 

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#2 UncleWillie

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:59 AM

Your Blue Ridge fish are:

2557 Tennessee shiner Notropis leuciodes.

2650 At a glance, this fish looks Cutlips minnow Exoglossum maxillingua, but I don't even think these guys are in Georgia. Is it possible to be a really stressed out Nocomis?

2660 Mirror shiner Notropis spectrunculus


Edited by UncleWillie, 29 August 2017 - 09:00 AM.

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#3 UncleWillie

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:08 AM

Your Ocmulgee fish are:

2993 Looks like Ocmulgee shiner Cyprinella callisema.

3018 Spottail shiner Notropis hudsonius.

3124 This one is tough.  Maybe a Eastern silvery minnow Hybognathus regius?


Edited by UncleWillie, 29 August 2017 - 09:08 AM.

Willie P
Woodstock, GA

#4 MikeB

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:30 AM

thanks UncleWilie - 

 

The Ocmulgee shiners are abundant in the stretch of Yellow River I fished - and a blast to catch with the light Kiyotaki 18 tenkara rod!

 

there were a few males with color here too

 

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#5 gerald

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:05 PM

2650 might be a Nocomis chub or a hybrid Nocomis x something (stoneroller) ???.

3124 looks like a Notropis or a Rosyface chub, but i dont think it's a Hybognathus.

Michael Wolfe might have some better ideas.


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#6 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

3124 does not have a long enough or round enough nose to be a H. rubrifrons (rosyface chub)... and the line normally goes through theur cheek and is also in front of their eye a bit.  But I'm not sure what it is. I might call it a N. hudsonius as they are quite variable.

 

3018 looks too deep bodied to be N. hudsonius to me, but I dare not contradict Uncle Willie.

 

2650 mouth shape and slight orange in the eye makes me think Nocomis, but it is very pale.


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#7 MikeB

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 10:17 AM

thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated - 



#8 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 02:51 PM

Darn good photos. Spectrunculus is a weird fish. Looks like Dr. Frankenstein had his hand in creating it.


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#9 mattknepley

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:39 PM

Darn good photos. Spectrunculus is a weird fish. Looks like Dr. Frankenstein had his hand in creating it.


I always thought they looked scaly mini-torpedoes.
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