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#1 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 09:57 PM

This forum is a branch off my other one asking that has been going on lately, this will focus on the components and fine tuning the systems. There will be 2 tanks that will deal with a Wisconsin stream, one will be the riffle section and the other being the pool of the riffle. Stocking goes as follows

Riffle tank:
Fish-
Pair of rainbow darters
Trio of banded darters
Fantail darter
Inverts-
Native snails
Other “goodies”
Plants-
Val
Hardscape-
River rock
Driftwood branch
Gravel/sand mix (70% gravel/ 30% sand)

Pool tank:
Fish-
Trio of Johnny darters
Pair of Iowa darters
4-5 sand shiners or northern red bellied dace
Inverts-
Ghost shrimp
Snails
Other “goodies”
Plants-
Val
Elodea
Hardscape-
Driftwood
Smaller rocks
Sand/gravel mix (60% Sand/40% Gravel)

Tank Mechanics

Riffle:
Filter-
Aqua clear 30 with powerhead?
11” led light with extendable brackets
Custom plywood hood and stand
Info signs on fish species

Pool:
Aqua clear 30 and sponge filter
11” led light with extendable brackets
Custom plywood hood and stand
Info signs on fish species and shrimp

Designs for the tanks to come with in a month or so



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#2 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 06:12 PM

I found a better visual for what I hope the tanks to look like, more of the riffle and run not pool27d53992aad2064c3b65e875bfcc5e60.jpeg


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#3 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 09:07 AM

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.  Seems like a tough task for such a small tank.


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#4 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.  Seems like a tough task for such a small tank.

Yeah, I will probably reduce the stock but I’ll have a ton of time


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#5 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:15 PM

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.  Seems like a tough task for such a small tank.


Okay so two 10 gallons COULD fit on the bookshelf of the desk in the dorm room....or should I build custom stands?

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#6 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:28 PM

Good attitude. Dreaming and designing should be fun. I strongly suggest that you spend some time in the water finding the fish you want in the meantime. You will learn a lot about habitat. Those who are unfamiliar often do not realize how much habitat variations have to do with what fish you will find and where. After a while, you get to a point when you can look at the habitat, and make a fairly educated guess at what is going to turn up in the next seine haul. Pretty fun. To someone less in tune, it can seem like you are psychic. Well, maybe not quite that far, but pretty cool nonetheless. For instance in my local river, if someone wanted to see gravel chub, logperch, suckermouth minnow or stonecat( all a bit particular in habitat preference) I could steer us in the right direction nowadays. I know what water to walk past, and what water we should target. No promises though, it is still fishing :biggrin:. I am a rank amateur, you should see how good some of these guys are. Wish Todd Crail was still hanging around, he would have some great input on habitat partitioning.

 

 You might gain a good bit of insight for your design phase by spending time netting, snorkeling and observing. It should also be some great fun. Try to make it to a convention, great opportunity to meet people with similar interests, and a great way to shorten that learning curve.


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#7 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:31 AM

Good attitude. Dreaming and designing should be fun. I strongly suggest that you spend some time in the water finding the fish you want in the meantime. You will learn a lot about habitat. Those who are unfamiliar often do not realize how much habitat variations have to do with what fish you will find and where. After a while, you get to a point when you can look at the habitat, and make a fairly educated guess at what is going to turn up in the next seine haul. Pretty fun. To someone less in tune, it can seem like you are psychic. Well, maybe not quite that far, but pretty cool nonetheless. For instance in my local river, if someone wanted to see gravel chub, logperch, suckermouth minnow or stonecat( all a bit particular in habitat preference) I could steer us in the right direction nowadays. I know what water to walk past, and what water we should target. No promises though, it is still fishing :biggrin:. I am a rank amateur, you should see how good some of these guys are. Wish Todd Crail was still hanging around, he would have some great input on habitat partitioning.
 
 You might gain a good bit of insight for your design phase by spending time netting, snorkeling and observing. It should also be some great fun. Try to make it to a convention, great opportunity to meet people with similar interests, and a great way to shorten that learning curve.


I would love to go but I don’t think my parents would let my go down here and I have a nice river that I wade in while catching channel cats and I have seen some Minnows but haven’t tried to catch them, know of a good seine net on amazon?


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#8 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:35 PM

We all have opinions, but I love my green Douglas Nets, https://www.douglasn...ute=common/home


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#9 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:29 PM

Another good filter option is a hang-on canister filter.  I have a Tom Rapids mini on my 10 gal.  With a little tube modification, it creates a bit of flow on the 10gal.


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#10 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:31 PM

Another good filter option is a hang-on canister filter.  I have a Tom Rapids mini on my 10 gal.  With a little tube modification, it creates a bit of flow on the 10gal.

Here's mine. Intake on one end, output on the other.dd9de5e80b292c6fac12e2c29c22d719.jpg

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#11 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 09:46 AM

Here's mine. Intake on one end, output on the other.dd9de5e80b292c6fac12e2c29c22d719.jpg

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How much do those filters usually cost, cause I would have to get 2


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#12 littlen

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 10:29 AM

Id love to hear about the Crystal Pepsi collection one day.
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#13 elting44

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 11:07 AM

Id love to hear about the Crystal Pepsi collection one day.


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#14 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 12:23 PM

I didn't even notice that!! That takes me back! Do tell

Yes, I would love to know more about the Pepsi tooo


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#15 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 03:29 PM

Okay, back to the aquarium questions. I know if I did any minnow species I would have to have a lid, right? Now I’m thinking about not having a top in the riffle and maybe have some plants like rush growing in the tank, would this work?


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#16 Chasmodes

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 08:42 AM

I would get a lid Calvin, simply because even  when fish seem happy in your tank, they tend to jump out of the tank.  I think minnows and shiners would commit suicide without a top.  If you want an open air exchange, get a plastic "egg crate" light diffuser from the hardware store and cut it to fit.  It's easy to cut and would keep most of your fish in the tank and still allow for optimal gas exchange.

 

Measure out how many rows you want, then mark where to cut with a sharpie.  To cut the egg crate, I just use longnose pliers, apply pressure to where you want to break, get a good grip on it and slowly twist until it snaps.  Do this all the way along the row to cut.  After you cut out your basic lid shape, go back with the pliers and break off the tag ends of where you broke each one by holding the pliers flush with your lid edge, and twist off each piece of broken plastic (tag ends).

 

As far as your stand, you will have 200 lbs. of tank on that furniture, so before using your school supplied furniture, make sure it can hold it and it is sturdy.  If not, just build one our of 2x4s.


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#17 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:34 AM

I would get a lid Calvin, simply because even  when fish seem happy in your tank, they tend to jump out of the tank.  I think minnows and shiners would commit suicide without a top.  If you want an open air exchange, get a plastic "egg crate" light diffuser from the hardware store and cut it to fit.  It's easy to cut and would keep most of your fish in the tank and still allow for optimal gas exchange.
 
Measure out how many rows you want, then mark where to cut with a sharpie.  To cut the egg crate, I just use longnose pliers, apply pressure to where you want to break, get a good grip on it and slowly twist until it snaps.  Do this all the way along the row to cut.  After you cut out your basic lid shape, go back with the pliers and break off the tag ends of where you broke each one by holding the pliers flush with your lid edge, and twist off each piece of broken plastic (tag ends).
 
As far as your stand, you will have 200 lbs. of tank on that furniture, so before using your school supplied furniture, make sure it can hold it and it is sturdy.  If not, just build one our of 2x4s.


I like the egg crate idea, and I could still have plant grow out of the top. And I’m making my own stands out of 2x4s and plywood sheets for the front and sides of the stand


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#18 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 12:06 PM

Id love to hear about the Crystal Pepsi collection one day.

It is not just Crystal Pepsi. Josh has a huge collection of everything Pepsi. It is pretty impressive. Sure he has some photos of his collection.


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#19 9darlingcalvi

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 05:45 PM

Would a 36” stand made from 2x4s and plywood sheets be a decent height?


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#20 Josh Blaylock

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:35 AM

Id love to hear about the Crystal Pepsi collection one day.

 

So, I never saw this post, but I'm going to take it over for a minute.

 

So I started collecting Pepsi back when I was about 10-12 years old.  It's really taken off now that I'm older and have actual money.  This is one wall, there's more here. 

 

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But Crystal Pepsi, was probably the thing that started my Pepsi infatuation.  I was 12 when it came out and I LOVED it.  I always loved it.  Many years passed and I missed it.  It was released again a few times over the past several years, making limited time returns to the shelves.  I bought and drank way too much of it.  It's actually out now, again, in some markets.  Here's a mix of the original and the new versions.

 

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