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#1 JasonL

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:29 PM

Had a productive day sampling an oxbow lake near the Ohio River today and came across a few fish I'm not 100% sure on. Wanted to get a little board input if possible.

Is this a Spotted Bass instead of a Largemouth? Looking at the mouth hinge in relation to the eye.

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Think I've narrowed this down to the Morone genus. ?Juvenile White Perch

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Wonder about Mud Darter here

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Is this a juvenile Longnose gar? There are 3 species of gar in this area. Sadly gar are apparently not appreciated by the locals. Found several carcasses along the bank.
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Thoughts appreciated.

#2 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:54 AM

I have no opinion on the white perch, but the rest seem correct to me.


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#3 mattknepley

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:57 AM

A nice day in the water indeed! Can not help you with the bass or the darter. Bass drive me nuts, for a fish so not small they are sure hard to tell apart sometimes. I've only ever seen Mud Darters once, and they were colored up, but they didn't look much like those guys in your post. Would tend to agree with you on the Morone call; don't know which one. The gar definitely looks longnose to me, just like the little ones we have here in SC. What are your other two gar?
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#4 centrarchid

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 08:52 AM

I have a bunch of Spotted Bass, Largemouth Bass and Spotted x Largemouth that will be pictured shortly for comparison.  Fish in top image does not look look straight Spotted to me and hybrids are out there.


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#5 JasonL

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 11:25 AM

Western KY has Longnose, Shortnose and Spotted gar. Actually I think that the KDFWR is restocking Alligator gar in some areas too.

I have a bunch of Spotted Bass, Largemouth Bass and Spotted x Largemouth that will be pictured shortly for comparison.  Fish in top image does not look look straight Spotted to me and hybrids are out there.


What age do juvenile Spotted bass develop the rough patches on their tongue? Do hybrids carry that trait?




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