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#1 Douglas2000

Douglas2000
  • NANFA Guest
  • Oxford, GA

Posted 28 September 2018 - 10:42 PM

Hi! I'm Douglas, a foreign student and native fish lover from China. I've started fish keeping since kindergarten,  native fish and other native aquatic animals are of my favorites. I enjoy collecting fish in the wild and breeding them too.

 

Now I'm a freshman here in Georgia, and I'd like to try something new. However, there's something I'm uncertain about the regulations. Here are some of my questions:

 

1.How do you guys get your fish? I do know that all native freshwater fish in Georgia are protected and cannot be collected without permission. But, which permission do I need? I went over the natural resources agency website but couldn't find anything about diddle-nets and other common ways to collect small fish species.

2.What if I don't collect fish by myself, and instead I purchase them online? Is it legal for me to possess them without a permission? 

3.What about other aquatic animals, like crayfish?

 

Thanks a lot for solving my problems. Here are some animals I kept in China.



#2 Michael Wolfe

Michael Wolfe
  • Board of Directors
  • North Georgia, Oconee River Drainage

Posted 29 September 2018 - 01:13 PM

Hello Douglas,

 

Please see the link below.  We had the NANFA Convention here in Georgia this summer and got an up to date understanding of the regulations put in writing for us.  

 

Essentially the rules are:

  1. Have a fishing license
  2. No protected species
  3. No game fish (unless you take them hook and line) check the fishing regulations for a list
  4. Stay out of trout waters (not a problem for you down in the Oxford area)
  5. No dip nets (but you can use a seine)
  6. Fish under 5 inches

But that is just my summary.  Here is the letter we got.

 

http://forum.nanfa.o...ng-regulations/

 

I am close to you, if you want to go out with us sometimes, let me know and I can add your email to an informal list I keep here for the NANFA members (and others) in the state of Georgia.  We were just out in your area at the Yellow River Jam down in Porterdale.

 

http://forum.nanfa.o...erdale-georgia/

 

We are actually in a very good position here in the middle of Georgia when it comes to native fish keeping.


Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. - Benjamin Franklin

#3 Fleendar the Magnificent

Fleendar the Magnificent
  • NANFA Member
  • Ohio

Posted 01 October 2018 - 04:49 PM

It is wise to check the laws with GDNR(Georgia Division of Natural Resources) about fish collection for such purposes as aquariums. I live in Ohio and as far as I know, to seine net for minnows and such, you still need a valid fishing license, even if it's for a few minnows. However, I am going to try to talk directly to an ODNR officer about that because the online regulations can be a bit sketchy and indirect.

 

Anyhow, the basics are:

No game fish unless caught on rod and line.

Obviously no protected or threatened list species.

The fish have to be under a certain number of inches.

Most minnows are OK, but you need to know what's protected and what isn't(lots of online resources).

Crayfish are typically OK to keep, but again, check the species in that state for their status. Here in Ohio, the Rusty crayfish is the most common native crayfish AND classified as invasive in most other states, therefore illegal to possess in other states.

No dip nets but minnow traps(football shaped metal cages) and seines are legal.

 

Now the question is, catch yourself or buy from online dealers?

 

Catching yourself:

Time, but a LOT of fun.

Rewarding like finding gemstones in the dirt. Never know what you'll catch.

Good friend-time. My 11 year old daughter and I went out last night seining and had a GREAT time. Caught banded darters, blackchin shiners, rusty crayfish, native snails and a stonecat madtom.

 

Drawbacks:

Catch something illegal because you're not sure.

Get bitten by leeches and mosquitoes.

Takes time to adapt them to domestic fish food.

Many need live or frozen foods instead of flakes.

 

Buying online:

Guaranteed what you order.

Insured.

100% legal.

Saves a lot of river wading time(the fun part).

Already trained to eat frozen and flake fish food.

 

Anyhow, the choice is yours. I prefer to catch my own because it's fun and it's a challenge to adapt them.

Have fun out there and good luck!



#4 Douglas2000

Douglas2000
  • NANFA Guest
  • Oxford, GA

Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:37 PM

Hello Douglas,

 

Please see the link below.  We had the NANFA Convention here in Georgia this summer and got an up to date understanding of the regulations put in writing for us.  

 

Essentially the rules are:

  1. Have a fishing license
  2. No protected species
  3. No game fish (unless you take them hook and line) check the fishing regulations for a list
  4. Stay out of trout waters (not a problem for you down in the Oxford area)
  5. No dip nets (but you can use a seine)
  6. Fish under 5 inches

But that is just my summary.  Here is the letter we got.

 

http://forum.nanfa.o...ng-regulations/

 

I am close to you, if you want to go out with us sometimes, let me know and I can add your email to an informal list I keep here for the NANFA members (and others) in the state of Georgia.  We were just out in your area at the Yellow River Jam down in Porterdale.

 

http://forum.nanfa.o...erdale-georgia/

 

We are actually in a very good position here in the middle of Georgia when it comes to native fish keeping.

 

Thanks a lot! I'll be honored if I've got the chance to go out and discuss with you guys. But I'm kind of busy this semester, maybe I should try to learn more about the fish species here first



#5 Douglas2000

Douglas2000
  • NANFA Guest
  • Oxford, GA

Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:46 PM

It is wise to check the laws with GDNR(Georgia Division of Natural Resources) about fish collection for such purposes as aquariums. I live in Ohio and as far as I know, to seine net for minnows and such, you still need a valid fishing license, even if it's for a few minnows. However, I am going to try to talk directly to an ODNR officer about that because the online regulations can be a bit sketchy and indirect.

 

Anyhow, the basics are:

No game fish unless caught on rod and line.

Obviously no protected or threatened list species.

The fish have to be under a certain number of inches.

Most minnows are OK, but you need to know what's protected and what isn't(lots of online resources).

Crayfish are typically OK to keep, but again, check the species in that state for their status. Here in Ohio, the Rusty crayfish is the most common native crayfish AND classified as invasive in most other states, therefore illegal to possess in other states.

No dip nets but minnow traps(football shaped metal cages) and seines are legal.

 

Now the question is, catch yourself or buy from online dealers?

 

Catching yourself:

Time, but a LOT of fun.

Rewarding like finding gemstones in the dirt. Never know what you'll catch.

Good friend-time. My 11 year old daughter and I went out last night seining and had a GREAT time. Caught banded darters, blackchin shiners, rusty crayfish, native snails and a stonecat madtom.

 

Drawbacks:

Catch something illegal because you're not sure.

Get bitten by leeches and mosquitoes.

Takes time to adapt them to domestic fish food.

Many need live or frozen foods instead of flakes.

 

Buying online:

Guaranteed what you order.

Insured.

100% legal.

Saves a lot of river wading time(the fun part).

Already trained to eat frozen and flake fish food.

 

Anyhow, the choice is yours. I prefer to catch my own because it's fun and it's a challenge to adapt them.

Have fun out there and good luck!

Thanks! Looks like buying online should be my first choice recently since I haven't bought the license or most needed equipments yet LOL.



#6 Michael Wolfe

Michael Wolfe
  • Board of Directors
  • North Georgia, Oconee River Drainage

Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:24 AM

Have to disagree. Buying a license is a simple online process. And if you got out with other local NANFAns we will have all the equipment you need.

And you learn a lot more standing in the water, in the habitat with the fish.
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. - Benjamin Franklin

#7 Fleendar the Magnificent

Fleendar the Magnificent
  • NANFA Member
  • Ohio

Posted 27 November 2018 - 06:57 PM

Buying my fish never crossed my mind, but I also live in a state where you're allowed to catch your fish for your tank as long as they're not threatened/endangered and you have the proper and legal equipment and license to do so. Ohio's pretty easy-going for catching your fish and it's a helluva lot of fun. Great bonding time with your son or daughter as well. When my daughter and I go out, we wade right into the thick of it and deploy our seine. She holds it while I work the riffles and we catch quite a bit. We also come home with a LOT of snails in our sneakers....

 

Anyhow, if you can, give river wading and catching your own a try. It's fun, interesting and educational. You learn a lot about the fish and the habitat it comes from which is important if you're wanting to try to recreate that habitat in your tank.

 

Here's the section where we wade at.

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#8 Doug_Dame

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:39 PM

I've asked this before, but I'll ask again ... where's the LIKE button ???


Doug Dame

Floridian now back in Florida
 


#9 Fleendar the Magnificent

Fleendar the Magnificent
  • NANFA Member
  • Ohio

Posted 28 November 2018 - 05:15 PM

@Doug,

 

Me too. Wish there was a "like" button on here. Lots of photos I have seen that I'd love to "like".



#10 TimothyHD

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  • Menomonee Falls, WI

Posted 04 December 2018 - 02:41 PM

I remain incredibly jealous of y'all. Taking micro-fish here in  WI would likely kill them, this time of year.  Happy hunting.





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