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#1 FishyJackson

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 08:17 PM

finally got back at it, so of course need some ID verifications.  Delaware River in NY.  Green Sunfish are non-native in NY but they seem to be randomly in most of the watersheds including the Dela.  I'm thinking this is a juvenile Greenie. Didnt expect to encounter one.  Pictures didnt come out great per usual

 

Also, I frown upon this whole Sunfish hybridization thing, so hopefully that's not the case here.  

 

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#2 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 08:59 PM

I would put this fish in the green sunfish pile, rather than the pumpkinseed or bluegill pile. That barring makes me think it isn't 100% green sunfish though.


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#3 Fleendar the Magnificent

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 09:27 PM

Looks like a green or a green x hybrid. Has the big mouth of a green.



#4 FishyJackson

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 10:14 PM

I'm reading that the greenxbluegill hybrids have smaller mouths than the Greens and that's what I'm seeing in internet pics of them. 

 

This pic below looks like it shows the upper jaw goes back to under the pupil like a true Green. 

 

Could this mouth size be the deciding factor here?

 

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#5 Fleendar the Magnificent

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 03:34 PM

Definitely a green *something*.... Could be a greengill. The greens X breed with a lot of other sunfish. Pretty specimen with the blue/green chains.



#6 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 04:33 PM

More green than anything else. Mouth size, face lines, soft dorsal spot, body shape, horz arrangement of markings. Id just call it green (but the I hate the h word).
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#7 FishyJackson

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 09:05 PM

thanks guys, I'm with you Michael.  I think there's enough there to declare this a pure Green.   

 

Got him in a new tank community to hopefully watch him grow into his Greenness.  He's in there with this honorable creature I also caught yesterday, the mighty Shield Darter.  I still need to catch Slimy Sculpin, Margined Madtom and Longnose Dace out there, but can't seem to find them.  Longnose Dace are supposed to be extremely abundant and I've never even seen one, so quite perplexing at this point.    

 

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#8 Fleendar the Magnificent

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 09:28 PM

Be aware that greens will eat darters once big enough. Greens are garbage cans with attitude. That's why I love green sunfish. They eat just about anything that fits in their mouth, they have attitude, and they are a great wet-pet. They interact with you.



#9 FishyJackson

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 09:52 PM

Be aware that greens will eat darters once big enough. Greens are garbage cans with attitude. That's why I love green sunfish. They eat just about anything that fits in their mouth, they have attitude, and they are a great wet-pet. They interact with you.

 

lol I noticed that, he did seem to be interacting with me.  Reminds me of the Oscar I used to have.  I will keep that in mind about eating Darters, good to know thanks






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