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#1 brookie13

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:29 PM

Hey All,

 

I have a question about the two fish pictured below. These are both from southeast Texas, but from two different river systems. Both are from within a 80 mile radius of Houston, TX. I felt very confident that both of these fish were warmouth (Lepomis gulosus), but when I was questioned on it, I began to doubt myself. What are your opinions? Warmouth or something else?

 

Both have a large mouth, extending past the pupil when closed. They both have short, round pectoral fins. Both ear flaps are short, black with a little spot of yellow to red at the edge.

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#2 brookie13

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:35 PM

Having trouble adding the second image. Just follow this link. 

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This is the ID that I'm the most interested in.

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#3 UncleWillie

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 01:42 PM

Both fish are warmouth.  And it's understandable that you second-guess what the fish is.  I've caught warmouth 100 meters from each other in the same body of water look totally different.


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#4 brookie13

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 03:30 PM

Both fish are warmouth.  And it's understandable that you second-guess what the fish is.  I've caught warmouth 100 meters from each other in the same body of water look totally different.

Awesome. Thanks a lot.



#5 centrarchid

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:17 AM

The same Warmouth can change color within seconds to match batch background or adjust to mood change. The only freshwater fish I have seen that comes close to the Warmouths's color change capacity are the sculpins.


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#6 JasonL

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 11:43 AM

That has been my experience with warmouth as well.   They are great chameleons.   An ideal trait for ambush predators like them.



#7 brookie13

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 02:57 PM

much obliged



#8 Veritas1980

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 04:51 PM

That's some nice fish. I catch sunfish fry dipnetting, frequently. I recently made a video minutes before I identified this juvenile as a warmouth. I am alsot from southeast texas and have never seen one before.

 

https://photos.app.g...8sZQUvniWvVsia8

 

It was the mottled pattern that threw me off, until I saw a pic for a juvenile on the wiki page.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmouth

 

This is when I knew what I had.



#9 brookie13

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:08 PM

That's some nice fish. I catch sunfish fry dipnetting, frequently. I recently made a video minutes before I identified this juvenile as a warmouth. I am alsot from southeast texas and have never seen one before.

 

https://photos.app.g...8sZQUvniWvVsia8

 

It was the mottled pattern that threw me off, until I saw a pic for a juvenile on the wiki page.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmouth

 

This is when I knew what I had.

That's an awesome little warmouth! Thanks for the short video and info!






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