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Still waiting for an ID on this one.

Started by Guest_tglassburner_* , Jun 11 2007 01:07 PM

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#1 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 01:07 PM

I can post more photos if need be.
Caught in NE Ohio

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#2 Guest_AndrewAcropora_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:53 PM

Bigeye shiner?

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#3 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:55 PM

This could be a crazy ID, but maybe bigeye shiner, Notropis boops. The dipping complete lateral line with dark melanophores and a light band above is one prominent feature, along with what seems to be a large, terminal mouth. If so, it's an increasingly rare species especially in Ohio.

Other interpretations? Now it's bugging me.....

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#4 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:30 PM

This could be a crazy ID, but maybe bigeye shiner, Notropis boops. The dipping complete lateral line with dark melanophores and a light band above is one prominent feature, along with what seems to be a large, terminal mouth. If so, it's an increasingly rare species especially in Ohio.

Other interpretations? Now it's bugging me.....

It does look like a big eye, but none of the ranges i see in Audubon field guide, Fishes of the Great Lakes region, or Fishes of Pymatuning: Pennsylvania/Ohio or Fishes of Ohio show their range anywhere near where I collected it.it was collected in Lake county. For more specific location Info PM me. But I do not see this area anywhere near the know range.

It certainely looks like a big eye.
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#5 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 04:27 PM

Those other pictures make me feel more strongly that it's a bigeye shiner, with the relatively deep body and distinctly big eyes (of course!). Range maps for many species are works in progress.

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#6 Guest_daveneely_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 05:19 PM

I'd be more inclined to say it's just a sand shiner, Notropis stramineus.

It's one of those deals where lots of things have big eyes, so you can try to squint and tell yourself that you have a bigeye shiner, but when you really do see a bigeye shiner you go "now THAT's a big eye!" Even more so for popeye shiners...

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Dave

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#7 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 06:43 PM

I'd be more inclined to say it's just a sand shiner, Notropis stramineus.

It's one of those deals where lots of things have big eyes, so you can try to squint and tell yourself that you have a bigeye shiner, but when you really do see a bigeye shiner you go "now THAT's a big eye!" Even more so for popeye shiners...

cheers,
Dave

Sand shiner or big eye shiner, it's hard to tell, If it is a big eye, it must be lost. Either way my 3 yo son said ooh sparkle, he likes it.

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#8 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 07:00 PM

Yeah, sand shiner is the simplest explanation and description. Side by side I'm sure there's a sharp difference between the sands and bigeyes.

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#9 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 07:59 PM

By distribution, it should not be a bigeye. They are only found in extreme south central Ohio. My default ID on this fish is always Sand/ Mimic shiner. I am not able to easily tell the two apart. Judging by the lateral line scales. The height of the scales are are over twice the width of the scales. So, I agree with Sand shiner.