Does anyone know where there are any good collection sites around Atlanta? All I have in my creek are sunfish, bullheads, and mosquitofish. The one at my dad's house has yellowfin shiners and chubs. I'm mainly looking for madtoms, Enneacanthus and Etheostoma species, and pirate perch.
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 09:02 PM
Michael Wolfe would know. The only other person I know of who has collected extensively in your area is not active on the forum any more.
As I remember, there are lots of little creeks and stuff in the residential areas of Atlanta. They're all worth checking out. If you can get up to Lake Lanier, try the various tributaries to the lake and the Hooch. I used to collect around there a good bit.
As I remember, there are lots of little creeks and stuff in the residential areas of Atlanta. They're all worth checking out. If you can get up to Lake Lanier, try the various tributaries to the lake and the Hooch. I used to collect around there a good bit.
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 09:08 PM
The short answer is to head north towards the mountains, certainly for darters and shiners. I-75 goes through some interesting territory before you hit the TN line. Racoon Creek is one good place. I'll have to look up my older notes about a trip or two we did there some years ago. And hopefully Casper, from Chattanooga, will see this and post something.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:49 AM
I don't know of any sites around Atlanta per say for the fish that you are looking for... I do know some places out towards Augusta for thise species... and I'm sure I could get Chip or Dustin to tell us a few more...
On second look I see you did say Etheostoma... you can come up here and see me in Athens (again, not exactly Atlanta) I've got at least one very small place where we can get some turquoise darters.
On second look I see you did say Etheostoma... you can come up here and see me in Athens (again, not exactly Atlanta) I've got at least one very small place where we can get some turquoise darters.
Does anyone know where there are any good collection sites around Atlanta? All I have in my creek are sunfish, bullheads, and mosquitofish. The one at my dad's house has yellowfin shiners and chubs. I'm mainly looking for madtoms, Enneacanthus and Etheostoma species, and pirate perch.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 11:48 AM
I used to live in Smyrna and Marietta when I was a kid. Things are a lot different now, but the creeks were full of great stuff back then, and might still hold something. I don't know what they were, especially not after 30 years, but there were madtoms for sure.
There was a fun little spot, a deep spot in what I guess was a drainage ditch near an apartment complex, which had clear bluish water, slick muddy substrate and the neatest crayfish ever. They were a vivid pine green color with yellowish-orange tails. I always thought they'd be a big hit in the hobby. That's in Marietta. There is a creek near the Chelsea Village apartments in Smyrna which runs through the woods, parallel to Love street. I don't know if those woods are even still there, but if so, that creek was slam full of stuff. Lots of snakes, but lots of fish.
There was a fun little spot, a deep spot in what I guess was a drainage ditch near an apartment complex, which had clear bluish water, slick muddy substrate and the neatest crayfish ever. They were a vivid pine green color with yellowish-orange tails. I always thought they'd be a big hit in the hobby. That's in Marietta. There is a creek near the Chelsea Village apartments in Smyrna which runs through the woods, parallel to Love street. I don't know if those woods are even still there, but if so, that creek was slam full of stuff. Lots of snakes, but lots of fish.
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 11:00 PM
Hey fishlvr,
Check out the following links, it includes a list of fishes caught during a study in several creeks in the Atlanta area. No Etheostoma or Noturus, but possibly some other fish you may be interested in. Apparently some of the creeks still have decent populations of native fish left, despite the urbanization. I was just in Athens this weekend and caught a turquoise darter and many Cyprinella shiners (not ID yet), and caught some margined madtoms there back in March, so you might have luck out that way with Michael Wolfe.
http://ga.water.usgs..._95/table3.html
http://ga.water.usgs...5/fs091_95.html
Marcus
Check out the following links, it includes a list of fishes caught during a study in several creeks in the Atlanta area. No Etheostoma or Noturus, but possibly some other fish you may be interested in. Apparently some of the creeks still have decent populations of native fish left, despite the urbanization. I was just in Athens this weekend and caught a turquoise darter and many Cyprinella shiners (not ID yet), and caught some margined madtoms there back in March, so you might have luck out that way with Michael Wolfe.
http://ga.water.usgs..._95/table3.html
http://ga.water.usgs...5/fs091_95.html
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 09:52 PM
Wow, thanks for those links. Very informative. I actually did see a couple species I'm interested in. Isn't their someplace I can look to find out what fish live in what rivers? I live on a tributary off of the Savannah River, so I just wanted to know if there was anything besides redbreast, bluegill, YF shiners, creek chubs, and bluehead chubs.
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 10:07 PM
Isn't their someplace I can look to find out what fish live in what rivers?
It isn't always that easy. Sometimes you are lucky and organizations have sampled waters and publicly reported them. This isn't the case everywhere.
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 10:51 PM
I don't know of any sites around Atlanta per say for the fish that you are looking for... I do know some places out towards Augusta for thise species... and I'm sure I could get Chip or Dustin to tell us a few more...
On second look I see you did say Etheostoma... you can come up here and see me in Athens (again, not exactly Atlanta) I've got at least one very small place where we can get some turquoise darters.
Hey, do ya'll have any green sunfish up there in Athens? What kind of other sunnies are up there?
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 10:55 PM
Wow, thanks for those links. Very informative. I actually did see a couple species I'm interested in. Isn't their someplace I can look to find out what fish live in what rivers? I live on a tributary off of the Savannah River, so I just wanted to know if there was anything besides redbreast, bluegill, YF shiners, creek chubs, and bluehead chubs.
Savannah River? it says you are in Atlanta. You should be in the Chattahoochee drainage if you are in west or north Atlanta, and the Altamaha if you are on the southeast side. Anyway, if you are interested in the upper 'Hooch' check out the following paper, it includes some collection sites along with the number and species they captured there (that part starts on page 24). Careful though, there are a couple of species present in that watershed that are rare and may or may not be protected. The most fun way to find out whats in your local creek is just to keep sampling, you may get suprised.
http://www.ucriverke.....al Report.pdf
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 07:08 AM
I live SW of Atlanta. Fayetteville to be exact. I was told yellowfin shiners only live in the Savannah River, or maybe they said Chattahoochee and I just got them mixed up, but I think it is a tributary off of the Chattahoochee because we have at least five of the species on the charts that are on that page.
Also, does anyone happen to know anything about Tar Creek? My grandparents live on it, and I was wondering what river it came off of. I'm sure it's probably the Chattahoochee, but I just wanted to make sure.
Also, does anyone happen to know anything about Tar Creek? My grandparents live on it, and I was wondering what river it came off of. I'm sure it's probably the Chattahoochee, but I just wanted to make sure.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:22 AM
Ah, you are in the Flint River Drainage, which is a major tributary to the Chattahoochee. The fish species present there are mostly the same as the ones listed for the Chattahoochee. If the Tar Creek you are refering to is in Fayette County, then it is also in the Flint (Chattahoochee) drainage. As for the yellowfin shiners, in Georgia they are present in the Savannah, Altamaha, Upper Chattahoochee, and some places in the Etowah drainage.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:29 AM
Ah, you are in the Flint River Drainage, which is a major tributary to the Chattahoochee. The fish species present there are mostly the same as the ones listed for the Chattahoochee. If the Tar Creek you are refering to is in Fayette County, then it is also in the Flint (Chattahoochee) drainage. As for the yellowfin shiners, in Georgia they are present in the Savannah, Altamaha, Upper Chattahoochee, and some places in the Etowah drainage.
The Tar Creek is in Morrow, Clayton County, which isn't really that far from here. About 30 miles or so. I don't know which drainage I'm in. How would I find out?
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:52 AM
The Tar Creek is in Morrow, Clayton County, which isn't really that far from here. About 30 miles or so. I don't know which drainage I'm in. How would I find out?
Get yourself a good map
You can get the Georgia Atlas and Gazetteer at most book stores and places like Walmart or Target. Also online you can use www.topozone.com . Both feature detailed maps that will show you most of the small creeks as well as the larger rivers in your area. These two resources (along with Google maps) are also great for picking out spots to go collecting.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 09:58 AM
Get yourself a good map
Well, I figured out that both are tributaries of Flint River. I just got to find out what else is waiting for me out there.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:01 PM
Sorry, I am not really sure... my interest in sunfish is pretty limited... shiners and darters are my main targets when I am out siening or snorkeling...
As far as knowing what drainage you are in, it looks like you already have figured it out (I was too slow) but here is a reference for future use...
You can also try this link... it is sometimes hard to use, but if you click on the map, click on Georgia, then hold the pointer over the approximate area where you live... it will give you a name of the river system... click on that and it will give you a list of all the fish in the particular system.
http://www.natureser...dHucs/index.jsp
Have fun...
Michael
As far as knowing what drainage you are in, it looks like you already have figured it out (I was too slow) but here is a reference for future use...
You can also try this link... it is sometimes hard to use, but if you click on the map, click on Georgia, then hold the pointer over the approximate area where you live... it will give you a name of the river system... click on that and it will give you a list of all the fish in the particular system.
http://www.natureser...dHucs/index.jsp
Have fun...
Michael
Hey, do ya'll have any green sunfish up there in Athens? What kind of other sunnies are up there?
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